Bacula for OSX 10.9

I'm interested in perhaps deploying this in my k-8 school, but I have not found a good tutorial of how to install it. Or if it even works right on Mac.

Anyone have some insights on this? My idea would be to back about 30 macs to an Ubuntu server.

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On 09/07/2014 07:33 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
[quote]I'm interested in perhaps deploying this in my k-8 school, but I have not found a good tutorial of how to install it. Or if it even works right on Mac.

Anyone have some insights on this? My idea would be to back about 30 macs to an Ubuntu server.
[/quote]
This would be a good way to setup Bacula. The Director, SD and catalog
work well on a Ubuntu server -- I recommend Trusty (14.04). For the
Mac's someone probably has made the binaries and distributes them on the
Internet. Otherwise if you load all the appropriate build tools on the
Mac, you can easily build the FD. Later this year, Bacula Systems will
provide free binaries for MacOSX which should also help.

If you have the budget, I *strongly* recommend taking the Bacula Systems
Admin I training. It will provide you with everything you need to know
and if you ask in advance, they can probably help you with the Mac builds.

Best regards,
Kern

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On Sep 7, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Kern Sibbald <kern < at > sibbald.com> wrote:

[quote]On 09/07/2014 07:33 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
[quote]I'm interested in perhaps deploying this in my k-8 school, but I have not found a good tutorial of how to install it. Or if it even works right on Mac.

Anyone have some insights on this? My idea would be to back about 30 macs to an Ubuntu server.
[/quote]
This would be a good way to setup Bacula. The Director, SD and catalog
work well on a Ubuntu server -- I recommend Trusty (14.04). For the
Mac's someone probably has made the binaries and distributes them on the
Internet. Otherwise if you load all the appropriate build tools on the
Mac, you can easily build the FD. Later this year, Bacula Systems will
provide free binaries for MacOSX which should also help.
[/quote]
I've not used Bacula on a Mac, but I do notice that Homebrew
(http://brew.sh) has a formula for bacula-fd, which could be used to
install the client. Right now, it's only for the 5.x version (5.2.13),
though.

I hope this helps.

Cheers,

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The Mac OS X client for Bacula should be a standard Mac OS X package --
a xxx.dmg file.
Anything that is a tar or other form is not very professional. I am not
sure what homebrew supplies, but if they have done it right it is a .dmg.

The instructions for building it yourself on a Mac are in the Bacula
source distribution in:

<bacula>/platforms/osx/README

Once you have the developer tools installed, it is a "piece of cake".

Best regards,
Kern

On 09/07/2014 04:06 PM, Paul Mather wrote:
[quote]On Sep 7, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Kern Sibbald <kern < at > sibbald.com> wrote:

[quote]On 09/07/2014 07:33 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
[quote]I'm interested in perhaps deploying this in my k-8 school, but I have not found a good tutorial of how to install it. Or if it even works right on Mac.

Anyone have some insights on this? My idea would be to back about 30 macs to an Ubuntu server.
[/quote]This would be a good way to setup Bacula. The Director, SD and catalog
work well on a Ubuntu server -- I recommend Trusty (14.04). For the
Mac's someone probably has made the binaries and distributes them on the
Internet. Otherwise if you load all the appropriate build tools on the
Mac, you can easily build the FD. Later this year, Bacula Systems will
provide free binaries for MacOSX which should also help.
[/quote]I've not used Bacula on a Mac, but I do notice that Homebrew
(http://brew.sh) has a formula for bacula-fd, which could be used to
install the client. Right now, it's only for the 5.x version (5.2.13),
though.

I hope this helps.

Cheers,

Paul.

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Hello,

No I am not familiar with homebrew. Sorry, I guess I was not very
clear, but my comment about "not very professional" was not at all
directed at homebrew. It was directed at people who produce xx.tar
files when there are package systems available for a particular platform
whether it be .rpm, .deb, .dmg, ... My point was that it is more
professional to use packages (if they exist) than .tar files.

The package built by the Bacula script does not itself do automatic
package updates, though it is possible that with a mac package manager
it all would work. Other than having run the scripts and produced
Bacula Mac packages, I am not at all familiar with the details.

Best regards,
Kern

On 09/07/2014 06:03 PM, Paul Mather wrote:
[quote]On Sep 7, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Kern Sibbald <kern < at > sibbald.com> wrote:

[quote]The Mac OS X client for Bacula should be a standard Mac OS X package --
a xxx.dmg file.
Anything that is a tar or other form is not very professional. I am not
sure what homebrew supplies, but if they have done it right it is a .dmg.
[/quote]Oh, I see you're not familiar with Homebrew. It is a package manager
for OS X, sort of in the same vein as Fink and MacPorts. It's popular
with a lot of people who want access to lots of Unix open source
software and be able to manage it on an ongoing basis.

I wouldn't decry it as being "not very professional" unless you also
consider the likes of yum, apt-get, pkg, etc. to be "not very
professional," too. Sure, it's a different way, but not an unfamiliar
metaphor for someone working with an Ubuntu server (as the OP
mentioned), which is the only reason I mentioned it.

I agree that using .dmg files is more commonplace on OS X. Does the OS
X version include an option to check for updates? I've never used it.

As you pointed out in your original reply, "For the Mac's someone
probably has made the binaries and distributes them on the Internet."
I did a quick Web search and it seemed that was not the case. I
couldn't find any. So, it's great that Bacula Systems will be
providing free OS X binaries later this year. That will be another
excellent resource for the Bacula community.

In the meantime, folks can build their own from source, or maybe use
Homebrew to do the same. ;-)

[quote]The instructions for building it yourself on a Mac are in the Bacula
source distribution in:

<bacula>/platforms/osx/README

Once you have the developer tools installed, it is a "piece of cake".
[/quote]It's pretty easy to install with Homebrew, too: brew install bacula-fd

Cheers,

Paul.

[quote]Best regards,
Kern

On 09/07/2014 04:06 PM, Paul Mather wrote:
[quote]On Sep 7, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Kern Sibbald <kern < at > sibbald.com> wrote:

[quote]On 09/07/2014 07:33 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
[quote]I'm interested in perhaps deploying this in my k-8 school, but I have not found a good tutorial of how to install it. Or if it even works right on Mac.

Anyone have some insights on this? My idea would be to back about 30 macs to an Ubuntu server.
[/quote]This would be a good way to setup Bacula. The Director, SD and catalog
work well on a Ubuntu server -- I recommend Trusty (14.04). For the
Mac's someone probably has made the binaries and distributes them on the
Internet. Otherwise if you load all the appropriate build tools on the
Mac, you can easily build the FD. Later this year, Bacula Systems will
provide free binaries for MacOSX which should also help.
[/quote]I've not used Bacula on a Mac, but I do notice that Homebrew
(http://brew.sh) has a formula for bacula-fd, which could be used to
install the client. Right now, it's only for the 5.x version (5.2.13),
though.

I hope this helps.

Cheers,

Paul.

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On Sep 7, 2014, at 1:33 AM, Eric Dannewitz <edannewitz < at > rdschool.org> wrote:

[quote]I'm interested in perhaps deploying this in my k-8 school, but I have not found a good tutorial of how to install it. Or if it even works right on Mac.

Anyone have some insights on this? My idea would be to back about 30 macs to an Ubuntu server.

[/quote]
I documented my 2011 install procedure: http://dan.langille.org/2011/04/02/getting-bacula-running-on-my-macbook/

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Unfortunately the cake is rotten now :-) PackageMaker is no longer supported
by Apple so the script doesn't work on OSX 10.9.

Please encourage Bacula Systems to contribute a fix to this script back to the
community version and build its binaries from that, rather than using a secret
cake recipe.

__Martin

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 16:34:00 +0200, Kern Sibbald said:
[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]
The Mac OS X client for Bacula should be a standard Mac OS X package --
a xxx.dmg file.
Anything that is a tar or other form is not very professional. I am not
sure what homebrew supplies, but if they have done it right it is a .dmg.

The instructions for building it yourself on a Mac are in the Bacula
source distribution in:

<bacula>/platforms/osx/README

Once you have the developer tools installed, it is a "piece of cake".

Best regards,
Kern

On 09/07/2014 04:06 PM, Paul Mather wrote:
[quote]On Sep 7, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Kern Sibbald <kern < at > sibbald.com> wrote:

[quote]On 09/07/2014 07:33 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
[quote]I'm interested in perhaps deploying this in my k-8 school, but I have not found a good tutorial of how to install it. Or if it even works right on Mac.

Anyone have some insights on this? My idea would be to back about 30 macs to an Ubuntu server.
[/quote]This would be a good way to setup Bacula. The Director, SD and catalog
work well on a Ubuntu server -- I recommend Trusty (14.04). For the
Mac's someone probably has made the binaries and distributes them on the
Internet. Otherwise if you load all the appropriate build tools on the
Mac, you can easily build the FD. Later this year, Bacula Systems will
provide free binaries for MacOSX which should also help.
[/quote]I've not used Bacula on a Mac, but I do notice that Homebrew
(http://brew.sh) has a formula for bacula-fd, which could be used to
install the client. Right now, it's only for the 5.x version (5.2.13),
though.

I hope this helps.

Cheers,

Paul.

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Hello Martin,

Have you been talking to Dimitri? :-)

Bacula Systems has no secret script for building Mac OS. It is done
using the scripts in <bacula>/platforms/osx with only some trivial name
changes that I personally made (e.g. Bacula -> Bacula Enterprise, ...).

All Bacula Systems low level scripts (.rpm, .deb, ...) are published in
the community version, with only one exception. The exception is the
scripts to build Solaris packages, which were written by Marco van
Wieringen. They are not released because his build "system" is too
complicated (at least for me) and is 3GB+ in size the last time I backed
it up :-( Some day, when I take a break from writing new features, I
will rewrite it in a very simple way that should be smaller than 100KB.

I wasn't aware that Apple has changed the package routines. All Bacula
Enterprise binaries are still build using this original script, so I
will request the build sysadmin to look into the current way of doing
things.

If you have any tips, they would be appreciated.

Best regards,
Kern

On 09/08/2014 03:27 PM, Martin Simmons wrote:
[quote]Unfortunately the cake is rotten now :-) PackageMaker is no longer supported
by Apple so the script doesn't work on OSX 10.9.

Please encourage Bacula Systems to contribute a fix to this script back to the
community version and build its binaries from that, rather than using a secret
cake recipe.

__Martin

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 16:34:00 +0200, Kern Sibbald said:
[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]The Mac OS X client for Bacula should be a standard Mac OS X package --
a xxx.dmg file.
Anything that is a tar or other form is not very professional. I am not
sure what homebrew supplies, but if they have done it right it is a .dmg.

The instructions for building it yourself on a Mac are in the Bacula
source distribution in:

<bacula>/platforms/osx/README

Once you have the developer tools installed, it is a "piece of cake".

Best regards,
Kern

On 09/07/2014 04:06 PM, Paul Mather wrote:
[quote]On Sep 7, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Kern Sibbald <kern < at > sibbald.com> wrote:

[quote]On 09/07/2014 07:33 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
[quote]I'm interested in perhaps deploying this in my k-8 school, but I have not found a good tutorial of how to install it. Or if it even works right on Mac.

Anyone have some insights on this? My idea would be to back about 30 macs to an Ubuntu server.
[/quote]This would be a good way to setup Bacula. The Director, SD and catalog
work well on a Ubuntu server -- I recommend Trusty (14.04). For the
Mac's someone probably has made the binaries and distributes them on the
Internet. Otherwise if you load all the appropriate build tools on the
Mac, you can easily build the FD. Later this year, Bacula Systems will
provide free binaries for MacOSX which should also help.
[/quote]I've not used Bacula on a Mac, but I do notice that Homebrew
(http://brew.sh) has a formula for bacula-fd, which could be used to
install the client. Right now, it's only for the 5.x version (5.2.13),
though.

I hope this helps.

Cheers,

Paul.

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You can use MacPorts to build Bacula 7.0.4 (client by default, also supports MySQL-, PostgreSQL- and SQLite3 Server variants)

Install macports (macports.org), then perform
„sudo port install bacula“

This by default installs the client fd.

Configure the client in /opt/local/etc/bacula/bacula-fd.conf
When configured, perform
„sudo port load bacula-fd“

To build a DMG file for standalone installation on other machines (which do not have MacPorts installed), you can perform

sudo port mdmg bacula
cd `port work bacula`

.. there you find bacula-7.0.4.dmg which includes all dependencies.

It’s recommended to use a separate MacPorts installation path for standalone dmg files.
See https://guide.macports.org/chunked/using.binaries.html#using.binaries.binary-packages

Robert

Am 07.09.2014 um 07:33 schrieb Eric Dannewitz <edannewitz < at > rdschool.org>:

[quote]I'm interested in perhaps deploying this in my k-8 school, but I have not found a good tutorial of how to install it. Or if it even works right on Mac.

Anyone have some insights on this? My idea would be to back about 30 macs to an Ubuntu server.

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Hello Robert,

Thanks for the tips.

Best regards,
Kern

On 09/08/2014 04:16 PM, Robert Oschwald wrote:
[quote]You can use MacPorts to build Bacula 7.0.4 (client by default, also supports MySQL-, PostgreSQL- and SQLite3 Server variants)

Install macports (macports.org), then perform
„sudo port install bacula“

This by default installs the client fd.

Configure the client in /opt/local/etc/bacula/bacula-fd.conf
When configured, perform
„sudo port load bacula-fd“

To build a DMG file for standalone installation on other machines (which do not have MacPorts installed), you can perform

sudo port mdmg bacula
cd `port work bacula`

.. there you find bacula-7.0.4.dmg which includes all dependencies.

It’s recommended to use a separate MacPorts installation path for standalone dmg files.
See https://guide.macports.org/chunked/using.binaries.html#using.binaries.binary-packages

Robert

Am 07.09.2014 um 07:33 schrieb Eric Dannewitz <edannewitz < at > rdschool.org>:

[quote]I'm interested in perhaps deploying this in my k-8 school, but I have not found a good tutorial of how to install it. Or if it even works right on Mac.

Anyone have some insights on this? My idea would be to back about 30 macs to an Ubuntu server.

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Thanks, I just didn't want to OSX binaries to go down the path of the Windows
binaries.

There is a new Xcode command productbuild, but I've not explored how to use it
yet.

__Martin

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]On Mon, 08 Sep 2014 15:46:26 +0200, Kern Sibbald said:
[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]
Hello Martin,

Have you been talking to Dimitri? :-)

Bacula Systems has no secret script for building Mac OS. It is done
using the scripts in <bacula>/platforms/osx with only some trivial name
changes that I personally made (e.g. Bacula -> Bacula Enterprise, ...).

All Bacula Systems low level scripts (.rpm, .deb, ...) are published in
the community version, with only one exception. The exception is the
scripts to build Solaris packages, which were written by Marco van
Wieringen. They are not released because his build "system" is too
complicated (at least for me) and is 3GB+ in size the last time I backed
it up :-( Some day, when I take a break from writing new features, I
will rewrite it in a very simple way that should be smaller than 100KB.

I wasn't aware that Apple has changed the package routines. All Bacula
Enterprise binaries are still build using this original script, so I
will request the build sysadmin to look into the current way of doing
things.

If you have any tips, they would be appreciated.

Best regards,
Kern

On 09/08/2014 03:27 PM, Martin Simmons wrote:
[quote]Unfortunately the cake is rotten now :-) PackageMaker is no longer supported
by Apple so the script doesn't work on OSX 10.9.

Please encourage Bacula Systems to contribute a fix to this script back to the
community version and build its binaries from that, rather than using a secret
cake recipe.

__Martin

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 16:34:00 +0200, Kern Sibbald said:
[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]The Mac OS X client for Bacula should be a standard Mac OS X package --
a xxx.dmg file.
Anything that is a tar or other form is not very professional. I am not
sure what homebrew supplies, but if they have done it right it is a .dmg.

The instructions for building it yourself on a Mac are in the Bacula
source distribution in:

<bacula>/platforms/osx/README

Once you have the developer tools installed, it is a "piece of cake".

Best regards,
Kern

On 09/07/2014 04:06 PM, Paul Mather wrote:
[quote]On Sep 7, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Kern Sibbald <kern < at > sibbald.com> wrote:

[quote]On 09/07/2014 07:33 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
I'm interested in perhaps deploying this in my k-8 school, but I have not found a good tutorial of how to install it. Or if it even works right on Mac.
Anyone have some insights on this? My idea would be to back about 30 macs to an Ubuntu server.
This would be a good way to setup Bacula. The Director, SD and catalog
work well on a Ubuntu server -- I recommend Trusty (14.04). For the
Mac's someone probably has made the binaries and distributes them on the
Internet. Otherwise if you load all the appropriate build tools on the
Mac, you can easily build the FD. Later this year, Bacula Systems will
provide free binaries for MacOSX which should also help.
[/quote]I've not used Bacula on a Mac, but I do notice that Homebrew
(http://brew.sh) has a formula for bacula-fd, which could be used to
install the client. Right now, it's only for the 5.x version (5.2.13),
though.

I hope this helps.

Cheers,

Paul.

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Hello Martin,

See below ...

On 09/08/2014 06:12 PM, Martin Simmons wrote:
[quote]Thanks, I just didn't want to OSX binaries to go down the path of the Windows
binaries.
[/quote]
No, OSX has no particular code written by Bacula Systems that is not in
the community version, whereas for Windows Bacula Systems has spent a
great deal of time (CHF) working on it and is willing to give out
binaries but wants to wait a bit before backporting the new source
code. Note, the Windows binaries are now available free to community
contributors. Hopefully that will be extended to more people in the
next couple of months.

Best regards,
Kern

[quote]
There is a new Xcode command productbuild, but I've not explored how to use it
yet.

__Martin

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]On Mon, 08 Sep 2014 15:46:26 +0200, Kern Sibbald said:
[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]Hello Martin,

Have you been talking to Dimitri? :-)

Bacula Systems has no secret script for building Mac OS. It is done
using the scripts in <bacula>/platforms/osx with only some trivial name
changes that I personally made (e.g. Bacula -> Bacula Enterprise, ...).

All Bacula Systems low level scripts (.rpm, .deb, ...) are published in
the community version, with only one exception. The exception is the
scripts to build Solaris packages, which were written by Marco van
Wieringen. They are not released because his build "system" is too
complicated (at least for me) and is 3GB+ in size the last time I backed
it up :-( Some day, when I take a break from writing new features, I
will rewrite it in a very simple way that should be smaller than 100KB.

I wasn't aware that Apple has changed the package routines. All Bacula
Enterprise binaries are still build using this original script, so I
will request the build sysadmin to look into the current way of doing
things.

If you have any tips, they would be appreciated.

Best regards,
Kern

On 09/08/2014 03:27 PM, Martin Simmons wrote:
[quote]Unfortunately the cake is rotten now :-) PackageMaker is no longer supported
by Apple so the script doesn't work on OSX 10.9.

Please encourage Bacula Systems to contribute a fix to this script back to the
community version and build its binaries from that, rather than using a secret
cake recipe.

__Martin

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 16:34:00 +0200, Kern Sibbald said:
[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]The Mac OS X client for Bacula should be a standard Mac OS X package --
a xxx.dmg file.
Anything that is a tar or other form is not very professional. I am not
sure what homebrew supplies, but if they have done it right it is a .dmg.

The instructions for building it yourself on a Mac are in the Bacula
source distribution in:

<bacula>/platforms/osx/README

Once you have the developer tools installed, it is a "piece of cake".

Best regards,
Kern

On 09/07/2014 04:06 PM, Paul Mather wrote:
[quote]On Sep 7, 2014, at 5:42 AM, Kern Sibbald <kern < at > sibbald.com> wrote:

[quote]On 09/07/2014 07:33 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
I'm interested in perhaps deploying this in my k-8 school, but I have not found a good tutorial of how to install it. Or if it even works right on Mac.
Anyone have some insights on this? My idea would be to back about 30 macs to an Ubuntu server.
This would be a good way to setup Bacula. The Director, SD and catalog
work well on a Ubuntu server -- I recommend Trusty (14.04). For the
Mac's someone probably has made the binaries and distributes them on the
Internet. Otherwise if you load all the appropriate build tools on the
Mac, you can easily build the FD. Later this year, Bacula Systems will
provide free binaries for MacOSX which should also help.
[/quote]I've not used Bacula on a Mac, but I do notice that Homebrew
(http://brew.sh) has a formula for bacula-fd, which could be used to
install the client. Right now, it's only for the 5.x version (5.2.13),
though.

I hope this helps.

Cheers,

Paul.

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I'm posting this wherever i found outdated info about OSX and bacula - I’ve just finished setting up bacula on ubuntu 17 for server and a verity of machines including Apple Sierra. Download the latest 9.0.3 source from bacula.org and move into the platforms/osx directory and read the readme – it compiled first time and i even managed to change the compile to include a console for OSX/Sierra. I did need to manually change the plist to get it to run at start up and control it due to the org.bacula.bacula-fd.plist.in actually being called com.baculasystems.bacula-fd.plist.in (just link the file names to get it to work).

I DO have mac ports installed and had previously installed the v7.x from there... and then de-installed it as i wanted the facilities in v9.x