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1. Automatic and Persistent share mount on Windows 2008 R2?
(Lightner, Jeff)
2. Re: Automatic and Persistent share mount on Windows 2008 R2?
(Leonard Boyle)
3. Re: Automatic and Persistent share mount on Windows 2008 R2?
(John)
4. Re: Automatic and Persistent share mount on Windows 2008 R2?
(Lightner, Jeff)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 13:34:52 +0000
From: "Lightner, Jeff" <JLightner < at > dsservices.com>
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Automatic and Persistent share mount on Windows
2008 R2?
To: "Auburn. Edu (veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu)"
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I have two data deduplication devices that do NAS style shares. They can do NFS or CIFS (or both at same time using different shares). The NFS shares have been there for quite some time and I successfully mount those to various HP-UX and Linux servers with no issue.

We need to try to mount to a Windows 2008 R2 server. Today I got as far as being able to login to the Windows server and map the share to a drive letter then verify I could read and write from it.

The issue is that CIFS mount:

a) Is only available to the user I logged in as when I did the map on the Windows side. (This was also true when I had the Windows Admin do it using the domain administrative account.)

b) Is not available to the NetBackup services that were already started automatically at boot. It is these services that will be writing to and reading from the mounts for backups.

So my question is how can I setup an automatic mount of a share in Windows at boot AND insure that services started will have access to read and write to it?

We did in fact try to enable NFS Services on the Windows server Friday but for whatever reason it puked on doing that each time and forced a reboot. If someone knows how to enable that on Windows 2008 R2 as well as how to make a mount there persistent (similar to the way it would be if in fstab on UNIX/Linux) I?d be happy to go that route instead.

Please don?t point me at links that ?might address? this if you haven?t already tried them and know they work. After working most of last week on this I?ve not found anything that really solves it in many web searches.

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Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:26:22 -0400
From: Leonard Boyle <boyle.len < at > gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Automatic and Persistent share mount on
Windows 2008 R2?
To: "Lightner, Jeff" <JLightner < at > dsservices.com>
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Good Morning Jeff,

There are several issues here.

1) we do not know how you are trying to use the mounted filesystem, so we
may miss some requirement.
2) I have used a nfs mount of a filesystem from a NetApp NAS system to a
windows server with no issues in the past, so that should be doable. Look
at microsoft support site for info on that.
3) The local netbackup services are run by default with the local "SYSTEM"
account. This account is a god on the local server, but has zipo privs for
remote filesystems, at least cifs one's. I have not checked NFS.
4) You can work around issue 3, by using an account that has access to the
remote cifs mounted filesystem and has access to whatever else it needs on
the local client. With most clients you can use an account that is in the
local admin group to enable the backing up the system state for the local
server and has acl's for the mounted filesystem.
5) You can add a script that is called by net backup's exit for backups and
restores to test that the remote cifs filesystem is mounted and mount it if
is not.
6) You can add a service that starts before the netbackup service(s) and
mounts the remote filesystem on the local system, if you need the remote
filesystem to be mounted before the netbackup service(s) start.

len boyle

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Lightner, Jeff <JLightner < at > dsservices.com>
wrote:

[quote]I have two data deduplication devices that do NAS style shares. They
can do NFS or CIFS (or both at same time using different shares). The
NFS shares have been there for quite some time and I successfully mount
those to various HP-UX and Linux servers with no issue.

We need to try to mount to a Windows 2008 R2 server. Today I got as far
as being able to login to the Windows server and map the share to a drive
letter then verify I could read and write from it.

The issue is that CIFS mount:

a) Is only available to the user I logged in as when I did the map
on the Windows side. (This was also true when I had the Windows Admin do
it using the domain administrative account.)

b) Is not available to the NetBackup services that were already
started automatically at boot. It is these services that will be writing
to and reading from the mounts for backups.

So my question is how can I setup an automatic mount of a share in Windows
at boot AND insure that services started will have access to read and write
to it?

We did in fact try to enable NFS Services on the Windows server Friday but
for whatever reason it puked on doing that each time and forced a reboot.
If someone knows how to enable that on Windows 2008 R2 as well as how to
make a mount there persistent (similar to the way it would be if in fstab
on UNIX/Linux) I?d be happy to go that route instead.

Please don?t point me at links that ?might address? this if you haven?t
already tried them and know they work. After working most of last week on
this I?ve not found anything that really solves it in many web searches.

Athena?, Created for the Cause?

Making a Difference in the Fight Against Breast Cancer

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 19:18:03 +0300
From: John <pjberchmans < at > yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Automatic and Persistent share mount on
Windows 2008 R2?
To: "Lightner, Jeff" <JLightner < at > dsservices.com>
Cc: "Auburn. Edu (veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu)"
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Hi Jeff,

I faced similar problem.
Just mapping the drives will not work. Shares get disconnected whenever there is a network outage. Finally CIFS was the only solution in our case.

Here is a work around...
Which I did not try. Just have a look. Looks like it needs a system account
privilege , which uses sysinternals suite.

http://serverfault.com/questions/426288/permanently-mount-network-share-without-the-need-for-log-on-windows

John

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 25, 2014, at 4:34 PM, "Lightner, Jeff" <JLightner < at > dsservices.com> wrote:

[quote]I have two data deduplication devices that do NAS style shares. They can do NFS or CIFS (or both at same time using different shares). The NFS shares have been there for quite some time and I successfully mount those to various HP-UX and Linux servers with no issue.

We need to try to mount to a Windows 2008 R2 server. Today I got as far as being able to login to the Windows server and map the share to a drive letter then verify I could read and write from it.

The issue is that CIFS mount:
a) Is only available to the user I logged in as when I did the map on the Windows side. (This was also true when I had the Windows Admin do it using the domain administrative account.)
b) Is not available to the NetBackup services that were already started automatically at boot. It is these services that will be writing to and reading from the mounts for backups.

So my question is how can I setup an automatic mount of a share in Windows at boot AND insure that services started will have access to read and write to it?

We did in fact try to enable NFS Services on the Windows server Friday but for whatever reason it puked on doing that each time and forced a reboot. If someone knows how to enable that on Windows 2008 R2 as well as how to make a mount there persistent (similar to the way it would be if in fstab on UNIX/Linux) I?d be happy to go that route instead.

Please don?t point me at links that ?might address? this if you haven?t already tried them and know they work. After working most of last week on this I?ve not found anything that really solves it in many web searches.

Athena?, Created for the Cause?

Making a Difference in the Fight Against Breast Cancer

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:26:58 +0000
From: "Lightner, Jeff" <JLightner < at > dsservices.com>
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Automatic and Persistent share mount on
Windows 2008 R2?
To: "Auburn. Edu (veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu)"
<veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu>
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From an earlier link I found the information about adding credentials to the NetBackup services on the Windows server then restarting.

The question is what do I specify for the absolute path when creating the storage unit? My assumption is it should be the UNC path (e.g. dedupe-unitsharesubdirectory<file:///dedupe-unitsharesubdirectory>) but I get a status 83 on checking properties if I try that or just dedupe-unit<file:///dedupe-unit> or dedupe-unitshare<file:///dedupe-unitshare>. (Where dedupe-unit is the hostname of my deduplication appliance and share is the name of the share I created there.) I?m also assuming this is ?BasicDisk? type as that is what I use for the NFS shares from the same units.

I?m trying this both with Data Domain and Quantum DXi.

As noted previously I can manually map dedupe-unitshare<file:///dedupe-unitshare> to a drive letter (e.g. X: ) but that doesn?t make it available. I also was able to use the ?net use ?? syntax from command prompt with no error but I?m not sure what it shows up as after that if I?ve not specified a drive letter with ?net use ??.

The mapping was done when I created the share using ?Workgroup? rather than AD on the dedupe appliance then mapped giving credentials as the user there. The Windows server itself however is in AD rather than Workgroup but a separate online post had indicated this mapping would work and as noted above it did for manual mapping.

Jeffrey C. Lightner
Sr. UNIX Administrator

DS Services of America, Inc.
5660 New Northside Drive NW
Suite 250
Atlanta, GA 30328

P: 678-486-3516
C: 678-772-0018
F: 678-460-3603
E: jlightner < at > dsservices.com

From: Leonard Boyle [mailto]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 11:25 AM
To: Lightner, Jeff
Cc: Auburn. Edu (veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu)
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Automatic and Persistent share mount on Windows 2008 R2?

Good Morning Jeff,

There are several issues here.

1) we do not know how you are trying to use the mounted filesystem, so we may miss some requirement.
2) I have used a nfs mount of a filesystem from a NetApp NAS system to a windows server with no issues in the past, so that should be doable. Look at microsoft support site for info on that.
3) The local netbackup services are run by default with the local "SYSTEM" account. This account is a god on the local server, but has zipo privs for remote filesystems, at least cifs one's. I have not checked NFS.
4) You can work around issue 3, by using an account that has access to the remote cifs mounted filesystem and has access to whatever else it needs on the local client. With most clients you can use an account that is in the local admin group to enable the backing up the system state for the local server and has acl's for the mounted filesystem.
5) You can add a script that is called by net backup's exit for backups and restores to test that the remote cifs filesystem is mounted and mount it if is not.
6) You can add a service that starts before the netbackup service(s) and mounts the remote filesystem on the local system, if you need the remote filesystem to be mounted before the netbackup service(s) start.

len boyle

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Lightner, Jeff <JLightner < at > dsservices.com<mailto:JLightner < at > dsservices.com>> wrote:
I have two data deduplication devices that do NAS style shares. They can do NFS or CIFS (or both at same time using different shares). The NFS shares have been there for quite some time and I successfully mount those to various HP-UX and Linux servers with no issue.

We need to try to mount to a Windows 2008 R2 server. Today I got as far as being able to login to the Windows server and map the share to a drive letter then verify I could read and write from it.

The issue is that CIFS mount:

a) Is only available to the user I logged in as when I did the map on the Windows side. (This was also true when I had the Windows Admin do it using the domain administrative account.)

b) Is not available to the NetBackup services that were already started automatically at boot. It is these services that will be writing to and reading from the mounts for backups.

So my question is how can I setup an automatic mount of a share in Windows at boot AND insure that services started will have access to read and write to it?

We did in fact try to enable NFS Services on the Windows server Friday but for whatever reason it puked on doing that each time and forced a reboot. If someone knows how to enable that on Windows 2008 R2 as well as how to make a mount there persistent (similar to the way it would be if in fstab on UNIX/Linux) I?d be happy to go that route instead.

Please don?t point me at links that ?might address? this if you haven?t already tried them and know they work. After working most of last week on this I?ve not found anything that really solves it in many web searches.

Athena?, Created for the Cause?

Making a Difference in the Fight Against Breast Cancer

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