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FAIDHERBE Thierry
Upgrading from 8.2.0 -> 9.2 or 18.1 ?
November 22, 2018 03:59AM
Hello friends,



At the beginning, we tought shutdown our networker 8.2.0.5 env for

switching to Veeam Backup and Replication.



We did it for all of our Vmware Vms and it's doing great job.



We kept Networker for our Solaris based logical domains and

a few physical file serveurs.



But finally, we will continue going on with Networker for our Solaris boxes

because Veeam is not supporting yet Solaris as fast as explained.



Anyway ...



I currently have one Networker 8.2.0.5 running on a Win2008R2 X64 box

with one attached physical lib, no modules, no datadomain, no storage nodes,

just Advanced Files devices flushed on a daily base to tapes (will be LTO7)

and cloned. Quite simple env.



According your experience with V9.X world, which target version is it best

to upgrade to ? 9.2.2 or 18.1 ? I could have also option to start new

datazone in Win2016 on new HW.



Thanks for your inputs ;-)



Warm regards



Th





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Re: Upgrading from 8.2.0 -> 9.2 or 18.1 ?
November 25, 2018 03:21PM
Hi Thierry,

as I do not have personal experiences with NW 9.2.x in a productive environment, let me suggest that you first start with a version which has run in our environment (Windows 2008R2) for month now: 9.1.1.7.
So you get at least a stable environment to continue.
Re: Upgrading from 8.2.0 -> 9.2 or 18.1 ?
November 27, 2018 01:59PM
In regard to: [EMC-DataProtection-L] Upgrading from 8.2.0 -> 9.2 or 18.1 ?,...:

> At the beginning, we tought shutdown our networker 8.2.0.5 env for
> switching to Veeam Backup and Replication.

You've been a user and contributor for a long time here. It will
be strange to not have you using NetWorker any longer.

> I currently have one Networker 8.2.0.5 running on a Win2008R2 X64 box
> with one attached physical lib, no modules, no datadomain, no storage nodes,
> just Advanced Files devices flushed on a daily base to tapes (will be LTO7)
> and cloned. Quite simple env.
>
> According your experience with V9.X world, which target version is it best
> to upgrade to ? 9.2.2 or 18.1 ? I could have also option to start new
> datazone in Win2016 on new HW.

When we migrated, we went to 9.2.1.x. We're still there, though we'll
probably be upgrading to 9.2.2.x some time soon. It looks like both
9.2.1 and 9.2.2 end support December of 2019, so from a life-cycle
difference, they are the same.

I don't know much about 18.1 yet, so I can't really say if that would
be a better version for you to migrate to. Or 18.2, for that matter.

18.1 will be supported until mid-2021. If I were doing the migration
today, the longer support life for 18.1 would be a factor I would
definitely consider.

NetWorker changed so much at 9.x that it's going to be an adjustment
no matter which version you choose.

Good luck!

Tim
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Mark Leese
Re: Upgrading from 8.2.0 -> 9.2 or 18.1 ?
November 27, 2018 01:59PM
Hi Tim,

From my experiences there isn't much different between 9.x and 18.x. there
are some decent improvements in the later however I haven't used 18.x in
anger up to now.

All the best Mark.

On Tue, 27 Nov 2018, 21:05 Tim Mooney <Tim.Mooney@ndsu.edu wrote:

> In regard to: [EMC-DataProtection-L] Upgrading from 8.2.0 -> 9.2 or 18.1
> ?,...:
>
> > At the beginning, we tought shutdown our networker 8.2.0.5 env for
> > switching to Veeam Backup and Replication.
>
> You've been a user and contributor for a long time here. It will
> be strange to not have you using NetWorker any longer.
>
> > I currently have one Networker 8.2.0.5 running on a Win2008R2 X64 box
> > with one attached physical lib, no modules, no datadomain, no storage
> nodes,
> > just Advanced Files devices flushed on a daily base to tapes (will be
> LTO7)
> > and cloned. Quite simple env.
> >
> > According your experience with V9.X world, which target version is it
> best
> > to upgrade to ? 9.2.2 or 18.1 ? I could have also option to start new
> > datazone in Win2016 on new HW.
>
> When we migrated, we went to 9.2.1.x. We're still there, though we'll
> probably be upgrading to 9.2.2.x some time soon. It looks like both
> 9.2.1 and 9.2.2 end support December of 2019, so from a life-cycle
> difference, they are the same.
>
> I don't know much about 18.1 yet, so I can't really say if that would
> be a better version for you to migrate to. Or 18.2, for that matter.
>
> 18.1 will be supported until mid-2021. If I were doing the migration
> today, the longer support life for 18.1 would be a factor I would
> definitely consider.
>
> NetWorker changed so much at 9.x that it's going to be an adjustment
> no matter which version you choose.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Tim
> --
> Tim Mooney Tim.Mooney@ndsu.edu
> Enterprise Computing & Infrastructure 701-231-1076 (Voice)
> Room 242-J6, Quentin Burdick Building 701-231-8541 (Fax)
> North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105-5164
>
>
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Thierry FAIDHERBE
Re: Upgrading from 8.2.0 -> 9.2 or 18.1 ?
November 27, 2018 07:59PM
Hi Tim,

I am not away from Netxorker :-) In fact, after 22 years, I just couldn't ;-)

... and Veeam is also quite impressive regarding vmware clients too ...
Eddie Albert
Re: Upgrading from 8.2.0 -> 9.2 or 18.1 ?
November 27, 2018 08:59PM
Thierry,

I have seen your comments on this list for many years as well.... I am
working in an environment that was migrated FROM Avamar -> Networker, the
legacy Networker piece was 8.2.2 (I think) but was migrated to 9.2.1. We
have had an issue where Networker would hang on to dead processes, so many
it would disallow backups to start. There is a bugfix that was intended to
be in 9.2.2, but ask your emc rep to verify it is in 9.2.2 if you go that
route...

So as the Avamar grids are no longer under maintenance, it is Networker
18.1 + DD9800s on DDOS 6.2.1.20

As Tim and Mark stated 9.x vs 18.1, if I were the boss I would go to 18.1,
all the fixes and none of the problems?
We are also migrating from DPA 6.5 -> DPA 18.1, that is a major upgrade.
Also implementing DDMC, DP Central and finally DP Search

Oh added capacity licensing and AD/LDAP...

Busy, Busy, Busy... /grin

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 10:45 PM Thierry FAIDHERBE <
thierry.faidherbe@skynet.be> wrote:

> Hi Tim,
>
> I am not away from Netxorker :-) In fact, after 22 years, I just couldn't
> ;-)
>
> ... and Veeam is also quite impressive regarding vmware clients too ...
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