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Francis Swasey
9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
February 28, 2019 11:59AM
Yesterday, the daily 2pm Server Protection policy's NMC Backup Server workflow failed. For some (as yet unknown) reason, savepsm on the NMC server was not able to authenticate to the nsrmmd running on the storage node the networker server told it to use.

Anyone seen this and have more insight that the Support team seems to have (/sigh)?

Sadly, support has not been able to do anything yet except find the failure messages in the logs that I provided them. And, today's backup has failed as well.

- Frank


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Matthew Powell
Re: 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
February 28, 2019 01:59PM
Mine has done the same thing at random times as well. It never occurs more than once and then it just starts working again after I restart the process.. That has been what has fixed it with ours and we are running 9.2.1.

-----Original Message-----
From: EMC Data Protection Q & A <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU> On Behalf Of Francis Swasey
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 2:37 PM
To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU
Subject: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???

Yesterday, the daily 2pm Server Protection policy's NMC Backup Server workflow failed. For some (as yet unknown) reason, savepsm on the NMC server was not able to authenticate to the nsrmmd running on the storage node the networker server told it to use.

Anyone seen this and have more insight that the Support team seems to have (/sigh)?

Sadly, support has not been able to do anything yet except find the failure messages in the logs that I provided them. And, today's backup has failed as well.

- Frank


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Francis Swasey
Re: 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
February 28, 2019 02:59PM
Matthew,

What process do you have to restart? The NMC server or the storage node?

- Frank

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 16:27, Matthew Powell <mtpowel@clemson.edu> wrote:
>
> Mine has done the same thing at random times as well. It never occurs more than once and then it just starts working again after I restart the process. That has been what has fixed it with ours and we are running 9.2.1.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EMC Data Protection Q & A <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU> On Behalf Of Francis Swasey
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 2:37 PM
> To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU
> Subject: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
>
> Yesterday, the daily 2pm Server Protection policy's NMC Backup Server workflow failed. For some (as yet unknown) reason, savepsm on the NMC server was not able to authenticate to the nsrmmd running on the storage node the networker server told it to use.
>
> Anyone seen this and have more insight that the Support team seems to have (/sigh)?
>
> Sadly, support has not been able to do anything yet except find the failure messages in the logs that I provided them. And, today's backup has failed as well.
>
> - Frank
>
>
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Matthew Powell
Re: 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
March 01, 2019 08:59AM
I generally just give it a clean networker shutdown of everything. I haven't tried individual stuff. Seems to me to just shut it all down but if you find better results just shutting down the storage node or GST process let me know sir.

-----Original Message-----
From: EMC Data Protection Q & A <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU> On Behalf Of Francis Swasey
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 5:29 PM
To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU
Subject: Re: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???

Matthew,

What process do you have to restart? The NMC server or the storage node?

- Frank

> On Feb 28, 2019, at 16:27, Matthew Powell <mtpowel@clemson.edu> wrote:
>
> Mine has done the same thing at random times as well. It never occurs more than once and then it just starts working again after I restart the process. That has been what has fixed it with ours and we are running 9.2.1.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EMC Data Protection Q & A
> <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU> On Behalf Of Francis Swasey
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 2:37 PM
> To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU
> Subject: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
>
> Yesterday, the daily 2pm Server Protection policy's NMC Backup Server workflow failed. For some (as yet unknown) reason, savepsm on the NMC server was not able to authenticate to the nsrmmd running on the storage node the networker server told it to use.
>
> Anyone seen this and have more insight that the Support team seems to have (/sigh)?
>
> Sadly, support has not been able to do anything yet except find the failure messages in the logs that I provided them. And, today's backup has failed as well.
>
> - Frank
>
>
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Francis Swasey
Re: 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
March 01, 2019 04:59PM
My NetWorker Server and the Storage Node were both busy, so I restarted the NetWorker components on the NMC Server and that was enough, today's 2pm backup ran without problem.

Thank you!!! You have saved me a long torturous support process.


- Frank

> On Mar 1, 2019, at 11:09, Matthew Powell <mtpowel@clemson.edu> wrote:
>
> I generally just give it a clean networker shutdown of everything. I haven't tried individual stuff. Seems to me to just shut it all down but if you find better results just shutting down the storage node or GST process let me know sir.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EMC Data Protection Q & A <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU> On Behalf Of Francis Swasey
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 5:29 PM
> To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
>
> Matthew,
>
> What process do you have to restart? The NMC server or the storage node?
>
> - Frank
>
>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 16:27, Matthew Powell <mtpowel@clemson.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Mine has done the same thing at random times as well. It never occurs more than once and then it just starts working again after I restart the process. That has been what has fixed it with ours and we are running 9.2.1.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: EMC Data Protection Q & A
>> <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU> On Behalf Of Francis Swasey
>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 2:37 PM
>> To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU
>> Subject: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
>>
>> Yesterday, the daily 2pm Server Protection policy's NMC Backup Server workflow failed. For some (as yet unknown) reason, savepsm on the NMC server was not able to authenticate to the nsrmmd running on the storage node the networker server told it to use.
>>
>> Anyone seen this and have more insight that the Support team seems to have (/sigh)?
>>
>> Sadly, support has not been able to do anything yet except find the failure messages in the logs that I provided them. And, today's backup has failed as well.
>>
>> - Frank
>>
>>
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Matthew Powell
Re: 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
March 01, 2019 04:59PM
Glad to help sir. Have a great weekend. Thanks for letting me know I can just restart one process and not entire server.

-------- Original message --------
From: Francis Swasey <Francis.Swasey@uvm.edu>
Date: 3/1/19 7:23 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Matthew Powell <mtpowel@clemson.edu>
Cc: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU
Subject: Re: 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???

My NetWorker Server and the Storage Node were both busy, so I restarted the NetWorker components on the NMC Server and that was enough, today's 2pm backup ran without problem.

Thank you!!! You have saved me a long torturous support process.


- Frank

> On Mar 1, 2019, at 11:09, Matthew Powell <mtpowel@clemson.edu> wrote:
>
> I generally just give it a clean networker shutdown of everything. I haven't tried individual stuff. Seems to me to just shut it all down but if you find better results just shutting down the storage node or GST process let me know sir.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EMC Data Protection Q & A <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU> On Behalf Of Francis Swasey
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 5:29 PM
> To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
>
> Matthew,
>
> What process do you have to restart? The NMC server or the storage node?
>
> - Frank
>
>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 16:27, Matthew Powell <mtpowel@clemson.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Mine has done the same thing at random times as well. It never occurs more than once and then it just starts working again after I restart the process. That has been what has fixed it with ours and we are running 9.2.1.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: EMC Data Protection Q & A
>> <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU> On Behalf Of Francis Swasey
>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 2:37 PM
>> To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU
>> Subject: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
>>
>> Yesterday, the daily 2pm Server Protection policy's NMC Backup Server workflow failed. For some (as yet unknown) reason, savepsm on the NMC server was not able to authenticate to the nsrmmd running on the storage node the networker server told it to use.
>>
>> Anyone seen this and have more insight that the Support team seems to have (/sigh)?
>>
>> Sadly, support has not been able to do anything yet except find the failure messages in the logs that I provided them. And, today's backup has failed as well.
>>
>> - Frank
>>
>>
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Anonymous User
Re: 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
April 23, 2019 07:59AM
What has postponed the upgrade to 18.x?

Yes, I know... that line is usually reserved for Networker support too...

Semper fidelis, /ALE

"Start where you are.
Use what you have.
Do what you can."

-----Original Message-----
From: EMC Data Protection Q & A <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU>
On Behalf Of Francis Swasey
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 14:37
To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU
Subject: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???

Yesterday, the daily 2pm Server Protection policy's NMC Backup Server
workflow failed. For some (as yet unknown) reason, savepsm on the NMC
server was not able to authenticate to the nsrmmd running on the storage
node the networker server told it to use.

Anyone seen this and have more insight that the Support team seems to have
(/sigh)?

Sadly, support has not been able to do anything yet except find the failure
messages in the logs that I provided them. And, today's backup has failed
as well.

- Frank


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Anonymous User
FW: 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
April 23, 2019 07:59AM
[Support] "Have you tried shutting down and restarting it?"
LOL, I know it works, but I hate that answer...

My favorite answer involves RCA = Root Cause Analysis

Semper fidelis, /ALE

"Start where you are.
Use what you have.
Do what you can."

-----Original Message-----
From: EMC Data Protection Q & A <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU>
On Behalf Of Francis Swasey
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 19:24
To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU
Subject: Re: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???

My NetWorker Server and the Storage Node were both busy, so I restarted the
NetWorker components on the NMC Server and that was enough, today's 2pm
backup ran without problem.

Thank you!!! You have saved me a long torturous support process.


- Frank

> On Mar 1, 2019, at 11:09, Matthew Powell <mtpowel@clemson.edu> wrote:
>
> I generally just give it a clean networker shutdown of everything. I
haven't tried individual stuff. Seems to me to just shut it all down but if
you find better results just shutting down the storage node or GST process
let me know sir.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EMC Data Protection Q & A
> <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU> On Behalf Of Francis Swasey
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 5:29 PM
> To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU
> Subject: Re: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
>
> Matthew,
>
> What process do you have to restart? The NMC server or the storage node?
>
> - Frank
>
>> On Feb 28, 2019, at 16:27, Matthew Powell <mtpowel@clemson.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Mine has done the same thing at random times as well. It never occurs
more than once and then it just starts working again after I restart the
process. That has been what has fixed it with ours and we are running 9.2.1.

>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: EMC Data Protection Q & A
>> <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU> On Behalf Of Francis
>> Swasey
>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 2:37 PM
>> To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU
>> Subject: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
>>
>> Yesterday, the daily 2pm Server Protection policy's NMC Backup Server
workflow failed. For some (as yet unknown) reason, savepsm on the NMC
server was not able to authenticate to the nsrmmd running on the storage
node the networker server told it to use.
>>
>> Anyone seen this and have more insight that the Support team seems to
have (/sigh)?
>>
>> Sadly, support has not been able to do anything yet except find the
failure messages in the logs that I provided them. And, today's backup has
failed as well.
>>
>> - Frank
>>
>>
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Francis Swasey
Re: 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
April 24, 2019 04:59AM
The upgrade to NetWorker 18.x has been delayed because of all the problems that have been encountered since the implementation of the NetWorker 9.2 upgrade plan in December of 2018.


Yes, I know that NetWorker 9.x is no longer supported as of December 31, 2019 - but, as the NetWorker team here is the trio me, myself, and I -- the production environment needs to be stable before I go hog wild on yet another upgrade. Probably another Christmas miracle will happen
Tossavainen, Atro (Consultant)
Re: 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
April 24, 2019 04:59AM
My local EMC office told me 18.2 IS a rebranded 9.2 and no other changes but the packaging. Can somebody please confirm or refute this.


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Atro Tossavainen
System Administrator (Consultant)
Oy IGT Finland Ab, a fully owned subsidiary of IGT plc (Business ID FI08945519)https://tietopalvelu.ytj.fi/yritystiedot.aspx?yavain=732317&tarkiste=0086DB0700906F9BA97F0CB46E633AADEC57A6B8
tel. +358-44-5000-600 (cell)
________________________________
From: EMC Data Protection Q & A <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU> on behalf of Francis Swasey <Francis.Swasey@UVM.EDU>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 2:12:12 PM
To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU
Subject: Re: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???


[THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED FROM A NON-IGT EMAIL ADDRESS]



The upgrade to NetWorker 18.x has been delayed because of all the problems that have been encountered since the implementation of the NetWorker 9.2 upgrade plan in December of 2018.


Yes, I know that NetWorker 9.x is no longer supported as of December 31, 2019 - but, as the NetWorker team here is the trio me, myself, and I -- the production environment needs to be stable before I go hog wild on yet another upgrade. Probably another Christmas miracle will happen
Matthew Huff
Re: 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
April 24, 2019 05:59AM
I’m in the beginning of migrating from 9.2 to 18.2 and there are definitely differences. One obvious one is that they now have systemd startup scripts for Linux instead of init.d.



From: EMC Data Protection Q & A <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU> On Behalf Of Tossavainen, Atro (Consultant)
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 7:35 AM
To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU
Subject: Re: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???


My local EMC office told me 18.2 IS a rebranded 9.2 and no other changes but the packaging. Can somebody please confirm or refute this.


--
Atro Tossavainen
System Administrator (Consultant)
Oy IGT Finland Ab, a fully owned subsidiary of IGT plc (Business ID FI08945519)
tel. +358-44-5000-600 (cell)
________________________________
From: EMC Data Protection Q & A <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU<mailto:EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU>> on behalf of Francis Swasey <Francis.Swasey@UVM.EDU<mailto:Francis.Swasey@UVM.EDU>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 2:12:12 PM
To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU<mailto:EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???


[THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED FROM A NON-IGT EMAIL ADDRESS]



The upgrade to NetWorker 18.x has been delayed because of all the problems that have been encountered since the implementation of the NetWorker 9.2 upgrade plan in December of 2018.



Yes, I know that NetWorker 9.x is no longer supported as of December 31, 2019 - but, as the NetWorker team here is the trio me, myself, and I -- the production environment needs to be stable before I go hog wild on yet another upgrade. Probably another Christmas miracle will happen
Francis Swasey
Re: 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
April 24, 2019 06:59AM
I have been told that 18.2 does away with java for NMC (it is HTML5 now).

________________________________
From: EMC Data Protection Q & A <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU> on behalf of Matthew Huff <mhuff@OX.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 8:06:52 AM
To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU
Subject: Re: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???

I’m in the beginning of migrating from 9.2 to 18.2 and there are definitely differences. One obvious one is that they now have systemd startup scripts for Linux instead of init.d.



From: EMC Data Protection Q & A <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU> On Behalf Of Tossavainen, Atro (Consultant)
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 7:35 AM
To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU
Subject: Re: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???


My local EMC office told me 18.2 IS a rebranded 9.2 and no other changes but the packaging. Can somebody please confirm or refute this.


--
Atro Tossavainen
System Administrator (Consultant)
Oy IGT Finland Ab, a fully owned subsidiary of IGT plc (Business ID FI08945519)
tel. +358-44-5000-600 (cell)
________________________________
From: EMC Data Protection Q & A <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU<mailto:EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU>> on behalf of Francis Swasey <Francis.Swasey@UVM.EDU<mailto:Francis.Swasey@UVM.EDU>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 2:12:12 PM
To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU<mailto:EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???


[THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED FROM A NON-IGT EMAIL ADDRESS]



The upgrade to NetWorker 18.x has been delayed because of all the problems that have been encountered since the implementation of the NetWorker 9.2 upgrade plan in December of 2018.



Yes, I know that NetWorker 9.x is no longer supported as of December 31, 2019 - but, as the NetWorker team here is the trio me, myself, and I -- the production environment needs to be stable before I go hog wild on yet another upgrade. Probably another Christmas miracle will happen
Matthew Huff
Re: 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
April 24, 2019 06:59AM
That would be great, but I haven’t seen that yet. Authc daemon still requires java and at least the default nmc interface (nmchost:9000) requires java. If there is another nm curl, I don’t know it. But I haven’t read the docs yet.

From: Francis Swasey <Francis.Swasey@uvm.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:10 AM
To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU; Matthew Huff <mhuff@ox.com>
Subject: Re: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???


I have been told that 18.2 does away with java for NMC (it is HTML5 now).

________________________________
From: EMC Data Protection Q & A <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU<mailto:EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU>> on behalf of Matthew Huff <mhuff@OX.COM<mailto:mhuff@OX.COM>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 8:06:52 AM
To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU<mailto:EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???

I’m in the beginning of migrating from 9.2 to 18.2 and there are definitely differences. One obvious one is that they now have systemd startup scripts for Linux instead of init.d.



From: EMC Data Protection Q & A <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU<mailto:EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Tossavainen, Atro (Consultant)
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 7:35 AM
To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU<mailto:EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???


My local EMC office told me 18.2 IS a rebranded 9.2 and no other changes but the packaging. Can somebody please confirm or refute this.


--
Atro Tossavainen
System Administrator (Consultant)
Oy IGT Finland Ab, a fully owned subsidiary of IGT plc (Business ID FI08945519)
tel. +358-44-5000-600 (cell)
________________________________
From: EMC Data Protection Q & A <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU<mailto:EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU>> on behalf of Francis Swasey <Francis.Swasey@UVM.EDU<mailto:Francis.Swasey@UVM.EDU>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 2:12:12 PM
To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU<mailto:EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???


[THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED FROM A NON-IGT EMAIL ADDRESS]



The upgrade to NetWorker 18.x has been delayed because of all the problems that have been encountered since the implementation of the NetWorker 9.2 upgrade plan in December of 2018.



Yes, I know that NetWorker 9.x is no longer supported as of December 31, 2019 - but, as the NetWorker team here is the trio me, myself, and I -- the production environment needs to be stable before I go hog wild on yet another upgrade. Probably another Christmas miracle will happen
Francis Swasey
Re: 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
April 24, 2019 09:59AM
/sigh...


Never trust sales...


- Frank

________________________________
From: Matthew Huff <mhuff@ox.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:26:42 AM
To: Francis Swasey; EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU
Subject: RE: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???

That would be great, but I haven’t seen that yet. Authc daemon still requires java and at least the default nmc interface (nmchost:9000) requires java. If there is another nm curl, I don’t know it. But I haven’t read the docs yet.

From: Francis Swasey <Francis.Swasey@uvm.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 9:10 AM
To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU; Matthew Huff <mhuff@ox.com>
Subject: Re: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???


I have been told that 18.2 does away with java for NMC (it is HTML5 now).

________________________________
From: EMC Data Protection Q & A <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU<mailto:EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU>> on behalf of Matthew Huff <mhuff@OX.COM<mailto:mhuff@OX.COM>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 8:06:52 AM
To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU<mailto:EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???

I’m in the beginning of migrating from 9.2 to 18.2 and there are definitely differences. One obvious one is that they now have systemd startup scripts for Linux instead of init.d.



From: EMC Data Protection Q & A <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU<mailto:EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU>> On Behalf Of Tossavainen, Atro (Consultant)
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 7:35 AM
To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU<mailto:EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???


My local EMC office told me 18.2 IS a rebranded 9.2 and no other changes but the packaging. Can somebody please confirm or refute this.


--
Atro Tossavainen
System Administrator (Consultant)
Oy IGT Finland Ab, a fully owned subsidiary of IGT plc (Business ID FI08945519)
tel. +358-44-5000-600 (cell)
________________________________
From: EMC Data Protection Q & A <EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU<mailto:EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU>> on behalf of Francis Swasey <Francis.Swasey@UVM.EDU<mailto:Francis.Swasey@UVM.EDU>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 2:12:12 PM
To: EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU<mailto:EMC-DATAPROTECTION-L@LISTSERV.TEMPLE.EDU>
Subject: Re: [EMC-DataProtection-L] 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???


[THIS MESSAGE ORIGINATED FROM A NON-IGT EMAIL ADDRESS]



The upgrade to NetWorker 18.x has been delayed because of all the problems that have been encountered since the implementation of the NetWorker 9.2 upgrade plan in December of 2018.



Yes, I know that NetWorker 9.x is no longer supported as of December 31, 2019 - but, as the NetWorker team here is the trio me, myself, and I -- the production environment needs to be stable before I go hog wild on yet another upgrade. Probably another Christmas miracle will happen
Andrew Chaplin
Re: 9.2.1.5 - unsafe at any speed ???
April 25, 2019 04:59AM
FYI, Dell/EMC added the NetWorker Management UI to 18.1 which is an HTML5 based GUI.

NMC is still shipped because the above has yet to reach feature parity with the NMC.


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