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Post Arcserve SBS vs Backup Exec SBS 
I'd appreciate recommendations on ArcServe vs Backup Exec for Small Business Server premium. The server runs SQL Server, Exchange and file services for our 10-employee business. We will backup to ESATA drives.

We've had ArcServe 11.5 in and found that the ArcServe services would not allow us to dismount the ESATA drive unless we take down the services. This is not a show stopper but is an inconvenience. Reliability is the top priority.

I plan on doing a rotation of four drives, writing a full backup and 4 differential backups to the same drive for a week, then swapping in a new drive and taking the drive offsite.

Thanks!

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Post Arcserve SBS vs Backup Exec SBS 
The sevices we had to stop were the ArcServe services.

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I am at r12sp1 and was, until recently, using B2D2D using external drives, having migrated from B2D2T.

All that is required to dismount them is to take them offline. From then they are removable (ignore the fact that windows will not allow you to safetly remvoe them).

Caveats:

1. if the system reboots without the drives plugged in, all your FSDs will be put into seperate, newely created, groups such as PGRP0 etc.
NOTE:

There is a registry patch that prevents this from happening, but during maintenance reboots, the staging devices would move into newly created groups if all the FSDs were not online.


2. To add and or remove an FSD, all other FSDs must be plugged in and online. You will recieve an "invalid" path error if they are not all online.

Because of this I have since moved back to B2D2T.

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I posted in your other thread for CA. BackupExec System Recovery.

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I'm looking for a way to backup offsite. Does either of the arcware or backupexec have that option? If so, how does it work and cost?

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I'm looking for a way to backup offsite. Does either of the arcware or backupexec have that option? If so, how does it work and cost?

BackupExec(BE) and BackupExec System Recovery(BESR) both can do some sort of offsite copy...

BE, can leverage the Symantec Protection Network. This is a pay for service to have them host your backups online in one of their two data centers. East and West coast... You pay with a credit card. Backup with BE, then do a duplicate job to the SPN, voila!

BESR, can only FTP your snapshot of a system to a remote server. You will have to have your own FTP server somewhere to ship off these images in BESR.


Which is better? It depends. Personally there is not enough Internet upstream bandwidth in most cases to upload 20+GB backups. Unless you have some major 10+Mbs uploads speeds can this be viable. Or you selectively upload only critical apps/data...


There are some interesting and exciting technologies going into the next release of BE this year. Enough so, that it's going to regain I think a lot of market share it may have lost to the likes of CA or CV.

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thank you mitch for your reply.

I'm hearing a lot about how cheap the storage is getting and how deduplication will solve all storage ills, though I only seee my problems grow. I can't find a solution that will work for us even today. As you mentioned I don't have gobs of bandwidth to use for this.

Am I the only one with a real need for an affordable product that will backup my systems away from our offices automatically, so that I don't have to move my tapes back and forth?

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thank you mitch for your reply.

I'm hearing a lot about how cheap the storage is getting and how deduplication will solve all storage ills, though I only seee my problems grow. I can't find a solution that will work for us even today. As you mentioned I don't have gobs of bandwidth to use for this.

Am I the only one with a real need for an affordable product that will backup my systems away from our offices automatically, so that I don't have to move my tapes back and forth?

Mambo, you can try SNAP Server, affordable, future growth and robost. They have the Snap Enterprise Data Replicator™ (Snap EDR) software for enterprise-class data replication and disaster recovery. The 1st replication will be LAN replication, then move over for incremental.

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a many people know about how cheap the storage is getting and how deduplication will solve all storage ills, though I only seee my problems grow. I can't find a solution that will work for us even today. As you mentioned I don't have gobs of bandwidth to use for this.

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