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I've recently been given the task of setting up BackupPC to back up some of our servers running RHEL and PgSQL.
Management wants me to back up data to an NFS where it can then be saved to tape via DPM for offsite storage.

I have set up a pair of test machines, the BackupPC server is on a RHEL 6 box and the target I am backing up is a little CentOS 5 desktop.
BackupPC is successfully backing up the CentOS machine to it's /data/BackupPC TopDir.
I've used rsync with ssh2 to perform 2 small backups.

How do I get it to save the backup to the NFS storage out on the network instead?

I will not have console access to the RHEL server that will be the eventual real backup target, I will have to tell their admin what to do to get it set up on that end

Also if there's a simpler way of doing all this (using our existing infrastructure) I'd like to hear about it.

Just a little background so you will understand the nature of my question, I'm a DBA and have been spending all my time in happy database land and this is a new area for me not only in terms of running Red Hat but also I'm not adeptly skilled in Linux and this is my first attempt with BackupPC.
That I have gotten this far on my own is just a little amazing to me.
Thanks.

Rick Bastedo

rbastedo <backuppc-forum < at > backupcentral.com> wrote on 10/12/2011 03:48:45 PM:

How do I get it to save the backup to the NFS storage out on the
network instead?

Why not mount an NFS share to TOPDIR? If BackupPC is already working for you correctly, you should be done!

The thing is, though: the BackupPC pool on tape by itself is probably *not* what management had in mind when they're asking you to store the backups on a remote server (and remote tape). I have a feeling you could do exactly what you're describing, yet it would be a failure in the end--and you might not realize this until you try to restore all of this...

Another, likely better, way to get your backed up data onto the NFS server might be to use the Archive feature. Read the doc: basically, it automatically creates a tar file of your backups for you. I (and others) use it to archive to a removable drive for swapping. It might fit your needs better.

Also if there's a simpler way of doing all this (using our existing
infrastructure) I'd like to hear about it.

I would question BackupPC as being the tool for achieving this (or what I think you want). Are you going to be using the pooling and history capabilities of BackupPC? Or is that what your DPM sysytem is for? If not, it's probably overkill as a substitute for tar or rsync directly. Scripting a simple rsync would probably be substantially simpler and more reliable, with a lot less moving parts.

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On Wednesday 12 October 2011 21:48:45 rbastedo wrote:
I've recently been given the task of setting up BackupPC to back up some of
our servers running RHEL and PgSQL. Management wants me to back up data to
an NFS where it can then be saved to tape via DPM for offsite storage.

There are three possibilities here I think:
1. Use the nfs-share as the topdir for backuppc. This works, but saving this
to tape is a) impractical and be will not help in any way for restore.
2.1 Set backuppc up with a local topdir and use a tapearchive-"host" in
backuppc to write out complete tars every night to the nfs-share before the
remote tape-machine picks these to write the tape. Easy to set up, good for
restore. And you only need the tapes in the case that backuppc fails.
2.2 Set up backuppc on the remote-machine with the tape, let it get the data
from the db over network and make it write the (additional) tapes locally.
3. If you don't really need the built-in backups of backuppc and just want to
collect full and/or incremental data to save to tape, use amanda...

In our business we are currently switching our (and our clients) backups from
amanda to backuppc with less-then-daily write-out to nfs-/iscsi-shares or
tapes.

Have fun,

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On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:48:45PM -0700, rbastedo wrote:
I've recently been given the task of setting up BackupPC to back up
some of our servers running RHEL and PgSQL.
Management wants me to back up data to an NFS where it can then be
saved to tape via DPM for offsite storage.

I have set up a pair of test machines, the BackupPC server is on a
RHEL 6 box and the target I am backing up is a little CentOS 5 desktop.
BackupPC is successfully backing up the CentOS machine to it's
/data/BackupPC TopDir. I've used rsync with ssh2 to perform 2 small backups.

How are you backing up postgres?

Are you dumping the database (pg_dumpall) and then backing up the
resulting file with backupc?
Are you shutting down postgres before doing the backups of the
data area using backuppc and then restarting after the backup
is complete?
Do you have backuppc customized to perform a PITR backup?

If you aren't doing one of these three things your postgres backups
are pretty much worthless and won't be able to be restored.

Given this is your first foray into backups I thought these may be
important things to check.

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On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:27 PM, John Rouillard <rouilj-backuppc < at > renesys.com ([email]rouilj-backuppc < at > renesys.com[/email])> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:48:45PM -0700, rbastedo wrote:
I've recently been given the task of setting up BackupPC to back up
some of our servers running RHEL and PgSQL.
Management wants me to back up data to an NFS where it can then be
saved to tape via DPM for offsite storage.

I have set up a pair of test machines, the BackupPC server is on a
RHEL 6 box and the target I am backing up is a little CentOS 5 desktop.
BackupPC is successfully backing up the CentOS machine to it's
/data/BackupPC TopDir. I've used rsync with ssh2 to perform 2 small backups.

How are you backing up postgres?

 Are you dumping the database (pg_dumpall) and then backing up the
  resulting file with backupc?
 Are you shutting down postgres before doing the backups of the
    data area using backuppc and then restarting after the backup
    is complete?
 Do you have backuppc customized to perform a PITR backup?

If you aren't doing one of these three things your postgres backups
are pretty much worthless and won't be able to be restored.

Given this is your first foray into backups I thought these may be
important things to check.



The vendor who maintains that system does the primary backup to disk so the PostgreSQL backups are done for us and stored on a 'backup' box.
Now the task is to get that backup stored to our tape system that us controlled by DPM.

Today I was given the machine to install RHEL 6.1 on so I can configure our "production" BackupPC installation.
I am just now at the installation phase, and have the screens up asking what kind of installation I want to do (Basic Server, Database Server, Web Server...).
Is there a general walk through for setting this up so that maybe it will work a bit better than my first install?
The first one was on a test machine and I didn't know I wanted Apache or PERL or rsync or any of that stuff.
So I know that I know more now than I did then but I also am aware that I'm not really sure of everything.

I'm just hoping this goes better than the test install.

Once again - the backup is done to disk already, the vendor is liable for the quality of that backup so all I'm tasked at doing is getting a copy of that onto tape for offsite storage.
I can't move it directly to our tape system because DPM is in control of it and apparently doesn't speak Linux.

Rick Bastedo

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo < at > gmail.com> wrote:

The vendor who maintains that system does the primary backup to disk so the
PostgreSQL backups are done for us and stored on a 'backup' box.
Now the task is to get that backup stored to our tape system that us
controlled by DPM.

I don't really think backuppc is a good fit for this unless you also
want a history of several days/weeks copies of these files saved as a
side effect.

Today I was given the machine to install RHEL 6.1 on so I can configure our
"production" BackupPC installation.
I am just now at the installation phase, and have the screens up asking what
kind of installation I want to do (Basic Server, Database Server, Web
Server...).
Is there a general walk through for setting this up so that maybe it will
work a bit better than my first install?
The first one was on a test machine and I didn't know I wanted Apache or
PERL or rsync or any of that stuff.
So I know that I know more now than I did then but I also am aware that I'm
not really sure of everything.

You should probably configure the EPEL yum repository and use 'yum
install backuppc' to do the install. The way yum works, it will
install any needed dependencies so it won't matter much what you
installed initially.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL6-FAQ#How_do_I_use_it.3F

I'm just hoping this goes better than the test install.

If you install from source, you have to get all the pieces right yourself.

Once again - the backup is done to disk already, the vendor is liable for
the quality of that backup so all I'm tasked at doing is getting a copy of
that onto tape for offsite storage.
I can't move it directly to our tape system because DPM is in control of it
and apparently doesn't speak Linux.

I don't see how you expect backuppc to help with this process. If
DPM or whatever process controls it can see a windows share, why not
use samba to share the directory where the file is stored? Backuppc
can get a copy daily from some specified location and store in its own
archive format, but you'll have to do something else to get it back
out again.

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Well I've been told we are using backuppc, so that's why I am using it.
That's the way it works where I work.

I tried installing from EPEL.

You said:
"You should probably configure the EPEL yum repository and use 'yum
install backuppc' to do the install.  The way yum works, it will
install any needed dependencies so it won't matter much what you
installed initially.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL6-FAQ#How_do_I_use_it.3F"


Here's the error I got when trying:

yum install http://mirror.pnl.gov/epel/6/x86_64/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64.rpm
(blah blah blah --> Processing Dependencies... etc)
... ... ... ...
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Package: BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64 (/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64)
           Requires: perl(Net::FTP::RetrHandle)
Error: Package: BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64 (/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64)
           Requires: perl(XML::RSS)
Error: Package: BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64 (/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64)
           Requires: perl(Time::ParseDate)
Error: Package: BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64 (/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64)
           Requires: perl(Archive::Zip)
Error: Package: BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64 (/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64)
           Requires: perl-Time-modules
Error: Package: BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64 (/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64)
           Requires: perl(File::RsyncP)
Error: Package: BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64 (/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64)
           Requires: perl(Net::FTP::AutoReconnect)

I added EPEL as a repository when I installed and yes this is a registered RHEL 6.1 install.
I make no claim at being adept in Linux, so don't fear offending me by pointing out obvious idiocy on my part.

Rick Bastedo


On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell < at > gmail.com ([email]lesmikesell < at > gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo < at > gmail.com ([email]rbastedo < at > gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

The vendor who maintains that system does the primary backup to disk so the
PostgreSQL backups are done for us and stored on a 'backup' box.
Now the task is to get that backup stored to our tape system that us
controlled by DPM.


I don't really think backuppc is a good fit for this unless you also
want a history of several days/weeks copies of these files saved as a
side effect.

Today I was given the machine to install RHEL 6.1 on so I can configure our
"production" BackupPC installation.
I am just now at the installation phase, and have the screens up asking what
kind of installation I want to do (Basic Server, Database Server, Web
Server...).
Is there a general walk through for setting this up so that maybe it will
work a bit better than my first install?
The first one was on a test machine and I didn't know I wanted Apache or
PERL or rsync or any of that stuff.
So I know that I know more now than I did then but I also am aware that I'm
not really sure of everything.


You should probably configure the EPEL yum repository and use 'yum
install backuppc' to do the install.  The way yum works, it will
install any needed dependencies so it won't matter much what you
installed initially.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL6-FAQ#How_do_I_use_it.3F

I'm just hoping this goes better than the test install.


If you install from source, you have to get all the pieces right yourself.

Once again - the backup is done to disk already, the vendor is liable for
the quality of that backup so all I'm tasked at doing is getting a copy of
that onto tape for offsite storage.
I can't move it directly to our tape system because DPM is in control of it
and apparently doesn't speak Linux.


I don't see how you expect backuppc to help with this process.   If
DPM or whatever process controls it can see a windows share, why not
use samba to share the directory where the file is stored?  Backuppc
can get a copy daily from some specified location and store in its own
archive format, but you'll have to do something else to get it back
out again.

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On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo < at > gmail.com> wrote:
Well I've been told we are using backuppc, so that's why I am using it.
That's the way it works where I work.

Perhaps if you explained the details of what you have to do to get
something on to the DPM system someone could help with making backuppc
do it for you.

I tried installing from EPEL.

You said:
"You should probably configure the EPEL yum repository and use 'yum
install backuppc' to do the install.  The way yum works, it will
install any needed dependencies so it won't matter much what you
installed initially.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL6-FAQ#How_do_I_use_it.3F"


Here's the error I got when trying:

yum install
http://mirror.pnl.gov/epel/6/x86_64/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64.rpm
(blah blah blah --> Processing Dependencies... etc)
... ... ... ...
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Package: BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64 (/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64)
           Requires: perl(Net::FTP::RetrHandle)
Error: Package: BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64 (/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64)
           Requires: perl(XML::RSS)
Error: Package: BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64 (/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64)
           Requires: perl(Time::ParseDate)
Error: Package: BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64 (/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64)
           Requires: perl(Archive::Zip)
Error: Package: BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64 (/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64)
           Requires: perl-Time-modules
Error: Package: BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64 (/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64)
           Requires: perl(File::RsyncP)
Error: Package: BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64 (/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64)
           Requires: perl(Net::FTP::AutoReconnect)

I added EPEL as a repository when I installed and yes this is a registered
RHEL 6.1 install.
I make no claim at being adept in Linux, so don't fear offending me by
pointing out obvious idiocy on my part.

I've only done it on CentOS where yum is the native update tool and is
configured to resolve/install dependencies automatically, so it 'just
works'. Maybe the RHEL yum setup is different. Can you 'yum
install' each of those required packages (enclose the names in single
quotes, or change the style to look like perl-File-RsyncP)?

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I got back to this today.
I have been finding and installing each of the dependencies and then came to:

"perl-XML-RSS"

It had a dependency of: "perl-DateTime-Format-Mail"
I found that and tried installing it and got:
"           Requires: perl(DateTime) >= 0.1705
           Installed: 1:perl-DateTime-0.5300-1.el6.x86_64 ( < at > rhel-6-server-rpms)
               perl(DateTime) = 0.53
"
I looked this up and it seems to be a dilemma, I've got a newer version than what it seems to require however it won't install.
This is the last thing BackupPC seems to be complaining about, if I can figure this out I can proceed with the installation.
I don't remember this happening on my test system, but even though it was the same OS it was a different environment.
Ideas about getting around this please?

Rick Bastedo



On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell < at > gmail.com ([email]lesmikesell < at > gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo < at > gmail.com ([email]rbastedo < at > gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
Well I've been told we are using backuppc, so that's why I am using it.
That's the way it works where I work.


Perhaps if you explained the details of what you have to do to get
something on to the DPM system someone could help with making backuppc
do it for you.


I tried installing from EPEL.

You said:
"You should probably configure the EPEL yum repository and use 'yum
install backuppc' to do the install.  The way yum works, it will
install any needed dependencies so it won't matter much what you
installed initially.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL6-FAQ#How_do_I_use_it.3F"


Here's the error I got when trying:

yum install
http://mirror.pnl.gov/epel/6/x86_64/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64.rpm
(blah blah blah --> Processing Dependencies... etc)
... ... ... ...
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Package: BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64 (/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64)
           Requires: perl(Net::FTP::RetrHandle)
Error: Package: BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64 (/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64)
           Requires: perl(XML::RSS)
Error: Package: BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64 (/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64)
           Requires: perl(Time::ParseDate)
Error: Package: BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64 (/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64)
           Requires: perl(Archive::Zip)
Error: Package: BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64 (/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64)
           Requires: perl-Time-modules
Error: Package: BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64 (/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64)
           Requires: perl(File::RsyncP)
Error: Package: BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64 (/BackupPC-3.2.1-6.el6.x86_64)
           Requires: perl(Net::FTP::AutoReconnect)

I added EPEL as a repository when I installed and yes this is a registered
RHEL 6.1 install.
I make no claim at being adept in Linux, so don't fear offending me by
pointing out obvious idiocy on my part.



I've only done it on CentOS where yum is the native update tool and is
configured to resolve/install dependencies automatically, so it 'just
works'.   Maybe the RHEL yum setup is different.  Can you 'yum
install' each of those required packages (enclose the names in single
quotes, or change the style to look like perl-File-RsyncP)?

--
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On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo < at > gmail.com> wrote:
I got back to this today.
I have been finding and installing each of the dependencies and then came
to:

"perl-XML-RSS"

It had a dependency of: "perl-DateTime-Format-Mail"
I found that and tried installing it and got:
"           Requires: perl(DateTime) >= 0.1705
           Installed: 1:perl-DateTime-0.5300-1.el6.x86_64
( < at > rhel-6-server-rpms)
               perl(DateTime) = 0.53
"
I looked this up and it seems to be a dilemma, I've got a newer version than
what it seems to require however it won't install.
This is the last thing BackupPC seems to be complaining about, if I can
figure this out I can proceed with the installation.
I don't remember this happening on my test system, but even though it was
the same OS it was a different environment.
Ideas about getting around this please?

Well, in theory the version you have installed is newer than the
requirement, EXCEPT, that there's an epoch of 1 on yours which trumps
the version (the 1 in front of perl-DateTime). Since BackupPC is
provided by EPEL on Fedora, I would file a bug against it on bugzilla.
They may reassign it to the correct perl component but you may
eventually get things fixed.

Richard

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Actually I got that turned around... I don't know why it's not installing.



On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Richard Shaw <hobbes1069 < at > gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo < at > gmail.com> wrote:
I got back to this today.
I have been finding and installing each of the dependencies and then came
to:

"perl-XML-RSS"

It had a dependency of: "perl-DateTime-Format-Mail"
I found that and tried installing it and got:
"           Requires: perl(DateTime) >= 0.1705
           Installed: 1:perl-DateTime-0.5300-1.el6.x86_64
( < at > rhel-6-server-rpms)
               perl(DateTime) = 0.53
"
I looked this up and it seems to be a dilemma, I've got a newer version than
what it seems to require however it won't install.
This is the last thing BackupPC seems to be complaining about, if I can
figure this out I can proceed with the installation.
I don't remember this happening on my test system, but even though it was
the same OS it was a different environment.
Ideas about getting around this please?

Well, in theory the version you have installed is newer than the
requirement, EXCEPT, that there's an epoch of 1 on yours which trumps
the version (the 1 in front of perl-DateTime). Since BackupPC is
provided by EPEL on Fedora, I would file a bug against it on bugzilla.
They may reassign it to the correct perl component but you may
eventually get things fixed.

Richard


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On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Richard Shaw <hobbes1069 < at > gmail.com> wrote:
Actually I got that turned around... I don't know why it's not installing.


On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Richard Shaw <hobbes1069 < at > gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo < at > gmail.com> wrote:
I got back to this today.
I have been finding and installing each of the dependencies and then came
to:

"perl-XML-RSS"

It had a dependency of: "perl-DateTime-Format-Mail"
I found that and tried installing it and got:
"           Requires: perl(DateTime) >= 0.1705
           Installed: 1:perl-DateTime-0.5300-1.el6.x86_64
( < at > rhel-6-server-rpms)
               perl(DateTime) = 0.53
"
I looked this up and it seems to be a dilemma, I've got a newer version than
what it seems to require however it won't install.
This is the last thing BackupPC seems to be complaining about, if I can
figure this out I can proceed with the installation.
I don't remember this happening on my test system, but even though it was
the same OS it was a different environment.
Ideas about getting around this please?

Well, in theory the version you have installed is newer than the
requirement, EXCEPT, that there's an epoch of 1 on yours which trumps
the version (the 1 in front of perl-DateTime). Since BackupPC is
provided by EPEL on Fedora, I would file a bug against it on bugzilla.
They may reassign it to the correct perl component but you may
eventually get things fixed.


Any idea why this works with the same packages on Centos 6.x but not
RHEL? Or why the RHEL yum wasn't resolving the dependencies itself in
the first place? If it is just a yum issue, downloading the rpm and
installing with rpm -i or -U should work now that the dependent
packages are there.


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Just to verify it works I tried installing to a chroot environment[1]
as I don't have access to an EL system. The only thing I can think of
is somehow your yum data was out of date or something like that.

The only thing I can think of is to try:

# yum clean all

It's pretty radical but non-destructive. It just means yum has to
re-download all the yum metadata from all of your repositories.

Richard
---
[1] Gory details here:

$ mock -r epel-6-x86_64 --init
INFO: mock.py version 1.1.16 starting...
State Changed: init plugins
INFO: selinux enabled
State Changed: start
State Changed: lock buildroot
State Changed: clean
State Changed: unlock buildroot
State Changed: init
State Changed: lock buildroot
Mock Version: 1.1.16
INFO: Mock Version: 1.1.16
INFO: calling preinit hooks
INFO: enabled root cache
INFO: enabled yum cache
State Changed: cleaning yum metadata
INFO: enabled ccache
State Changed: running yum
State Changed: creating cache
State Changed: unlock buildroot
State Changed: end

$ mock -r epel-6-x86_64 --install BackupPC
INFO: mock.py version 1.1.16 starting...
State Changed: init plugins
INFO: selinux enabled
State Changed: start
Mock Version: 1.1.16
INFO: Mock Version: 1.1.16
State Changed: lock buildroot
INFO: installing package(s): BackupPC
INFO: Ignored option -c (probably due to merging -yc != -y -c)

================================================================================
Package Arch Version Repository
Size
================================================================================
Installing:
BackupPC x86_64 3.2.1-6.el6 epel 461 k
Installing for dependencies:
apr x86_64 1.3.9-3.el6_0.1 updates 124 k
apr-util x86_64 1.3.9-3.el6_0.1 updates 87 k
apr-util-ldap x86_64 1.3.9-3.el6_0.1 updates 15 k
checkpolicy x86_64 2.0.22-1.el6 base 190 k
dbus-glib x86_64 0.86-5.el6 base 170 k
expat x86_64 2.0.1-9.1.el6 base 76 k
httpd x86_64 2.2.15-5.el6.centos base 811 k
httpd-tools x86_64 2.2.15-5.el6.centos base 68 k
libselinux-utils x86_64 2.0.94-2.el6 base 80 k
libsemanage x86_64 2.0.43-4.el6 base 104 k
libtalloc x86_64 2.0.1-1.1.el6 base 19 k
libtdb x86_64 1.2.1-2.el6 base 28 k
mailcap noarch 2.1.31-1.1.el6 base 27 k
perl-Archive-Zip noarch 1.30-2.el6 base 107 k
perl-CGI x86_64 3.49-115.el6 base 191 k
perl-Class-Singleton noarch 1.4-6.el6 base 17 k
perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib x86_64 2.023-115.el6 base 66 k
perl-Compress-Zlib x86_64 2.020-115.el6 base 42 k
perl-DateTime x86_64 1:0.5300-1.el6 base 2.0 M
perl-DateTime-Format-Mail noarch 0.3001-6.el6 base 159 k
perl-DateTime-Format-W3CDTF noarch 0.04-8.el6 base 17 k
perl-File-RsyncP x86_64 0.68-6.el6 epel 100 k
perl-HTML-Parser x86_64 3.64-2.el6 base 109 k
perl-HTML-Tagset noarch 3.20-4.el6 base 17 k
perl-IO-Compress-Base x86_64 2.020-115.el6 base 65 k
perl-IO-Compress-Zlib x86_64 2.020-115.el6 base 132 k
perl-List-MoreUtils x86_64 0.22-10.el6 base 53 k
perl-Net-FTP-AutoReconnect noarch 0.3-3.el6 epel 11 k
perl-Net-FTP-RetrHandle noarch 0.2-3.el6 epel 16 k
perl-Params-Validate x86_64 0.92-3.el6 base 75 k
perl-Time-modules noarch 2006.0814-5.el6 base 38 k
perl-URI noarch 1.40-2.el6 base 117 k
perl-XML-Parser x86_64 2.36-7.el6 base 224 k
perl-XML-RSS noarch 1.45-2.el6 base 59 k
perl-libwww-perl noarch 5.833-2.el6 base 387 k
policycoreutils x86_64 2.0.83-19.8.el6_0 updates 675 k
redhat-logos noarch 60.0.14-10.el6 base 10 M
rsync x86_64 3.0.6-5.el6_0.1 updates 335 k
samba-client x86_64 3.5.4-68.el6_0.2 updates 11 M
samba-common x86_64 3.5.4-68.el6_0.2 updates 13 M
samba-winbind-clients x86_64 3.5.4-68.el6_0.2 updates 1.1 M
ustr x86_64 1.0.4-9.1.el6 base 86 k

Transaction Summary
================================================================================
Install 43 Package(s)

Total download size: 43 M
Installed size: 129 M

Installed:
BackupPC.x86_64 0:3.2.1-6.el6

Dependency Installed:
apr.x86_64 0:1.3.9-3.el6_0.1
apr-util.x86_64 0:1.3.9-3.el6_0.1
apr-util-ldap.x86_64 0:1.3.9-3.el6_0.1
checkpolicy.x86_64 0:2.0.22-1.el6
dbus-glib.x86_64 0:0.86-5.el6
expat.x86_64 0:2.0.1-9.1.el6
httpd.x86_64 0:2.2.15-5.el6.centos
httpd-tools.x86_64 0:2.2.15-5.el6.centos
libselinux-utils.x86_64 0:2.0.94-2.el6
libsemanage.x86_64 0:2.0.43-4.el6
libtalloc.x86_64 0:2.0.1-1.1.el6
libtdb.x86_64 0:1.2.1-2.el6
mailcap.noarch 0:2.1.31-1.1.el6
perl-Archive-Zip.noarch 0:1.30-2.el6
perl-CGI.x86_64 0:3.49-115.el6
perl-Class-Singleton.noarch 0:1.4-6.el6
perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib.x86_64 0:2.023-115.el6
perl-Compress-Zlib.x86_64 0:2.020-115.el6
perl-DateTime.x86_64 1:0.5300-1.el6
perl-DateTime-Format-Mail.noarch 0:0.3001-6.el6
perl-DateTime-Format-W3CDTF.noarch 0:0.04-8.el6
perl-File-RsyncP.x86_64 0:0.68-6.el6
perl-HTML-Parser.x86_64 0:3.64-2.el6
perl-HTML-Tagset.noarch 0:3.20-4.el6
perl-IO-Compress-Base.x86_64 0:2.020-115.el6
perl-IO-Compress-Zlib.x86_64 0:2.020-115.el6
perl-List-MoreUtils.x86_64 0:0.22-10.el6
perl-Net-FTP-AutoReconnect.noarch 0:0.3-3.el6
perl-Net-FTP-RetrHandle.noarch 0:0.2-3.el6
perl-Params-Validate.x86_64 0:0.92-3.el6
perl-Time-modules.noarch 0:2006.0814-5.el6
perl-URI.noarch 0:1.40-2.el6
perl-XML-Parser.x86_64 0:2.36-7.el6
perl-XML-RSS.noarch 0:1.45-2.el6
perl-libwww-perl.noarch 0:5.833-2.el6
policycoreutils.x86_64 0:2.0.83-19.8.el6_0
redhat-logos.noarch 0:60.0.14-10.el6
rsync.x86_64 0:3.0.6-5.el6_0.1
samba-client.x86_64 0:3.5.4-68.el6_0.2
samba-common.x86_64 0:3.5.4-68.el6_0.2
samba-winbind-clients.x86_64 0:3.5.4-68.el6_0.2
ustr.x86_64 0:1.0.4-9.1.el6


State Changed: unlock buildroot
State Changed: end

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Thanks everyone, I assumed something that was not true.
This problem is behind me, I truly appreciate the help here - even though it pointed out something that I failed to verify as working.
Once I added EPEL and then installed BackupPC it went as smoothly as anyone would expect.
I added EPEL during RHEL installation, so I thought it was done.
Your messages prompted me to look and see if my assumption was correct and finding it wasn't led me to success.

(humbly)
Rick Bastedo


On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Richard Shaw <hobbes1069 < at > gmail.com ([email]hobbes1069 < at > gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
Just to verify it works I tried installing to a chroot environment[1]
as I don't have access to an EL system. The only thing I can think of
is somehow your yum data was out of date or something like that.

The only thing I can think of is to try:

# yum clean all

It's pretty radical but non-destructive. It just means yum has to
re-download all the yum metadata from all of your repositories.

Richard
---
[1] Gory details here:

$ mock -r epel-6-x86_64 --init
INFO: mock.py version 1.1.16 starting...
State Changed: init plugins
INFO: selinux enabled
State Changed: start
State Changed: lock buildroot
State Changed: clean
State Changed: unlock buildroot
State Changed: init
State Changed: lock buildroot
Mock Version: 1.1.16
INFO: Mock Version: 1.1.16
INFO: calling preinit hooks
INFO: enabled root cache
INFO: enabled yum cache
State Changed: cleaning yum metadata
INFO: enabled ccache
State Changed: running yum
State Changed: creating cache
State Changed: unlock buildroot
State Changed: end

$ mock -r epel-6-x86_64 --install BackupPC
INFO: mock.py version 1.1.16 starting...
State Changed: init plugins
INFO: selinux enabled
State Changed: start
Mock Version: 1.1.16
INFO: Mock Version: 1.1.16
State Changed: lock buildroot
INFO: installing package(s): BackupPC
INFO: Ignored option -c (probably due to merging -yc != -y -c)

================================================================================
 Package                       Arch     Version                 Repository
                                                                          Size
================================================================================
Installing:
 BackupPC                      x86_64   3.2.1-6.el6             epel      461 k
Installing for dependencies:
 apr                           x86_64   1.3.9-3.el6_0.1         updates   124 k
 apr-util                      x86_64   1.3.9-3.el6_0.1         updates    87 k
 apr-util-ldap                 x86_64   1.3.9-3.el6_0.1         updates    15 k
 checkpolicy                   x86_64   2.0.22-1.el6            base      190 k
 dbus-glib                     x86_64   0.86-5.el6              base      170 k
 expat                         x86_64   2.0.1-9.1.el6           base       76 k
 httpd                         x86_64   2.2.15-5.el6.centos     base      811 k
 httpd-tools                   x86_64   2.2.15-5.el6.centos     base       68 k
 libselinux-utils              x86_64   2.0.94-2.el6            base       80 k
 libsemanage                   x86_64   2.0.43-4.el6            base      104 k
 libtalloc                     x86_64   2.0.1-1.1.el6           base       19 k
 libtdb                        x86_64   1.2.1-2.el6             base       28 k
 mailcap                       noarch   2.1.31-1.1.el6          base       27 k
 perl-Archive-Zip              noarch   1.30-2.el6              base      107 k
 perl-CGI                      x86_64   3.49-115.el6            base      191 k
 perl-Class-Singleton          noarch   1.4-6.el6               base       17 k
 perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib        x86_64   2.023-115.el6           base       66 k
 perl-Compress-Zlib            x86_64   2.020-115.el6           base       42 k
 perl-DateTime                 x86_64   1:0.5300-1.el6          base      2.0 M
 perl-DateTime-Format-Mail     noarch   0.3001-6.el6            base      159 k
 perl-DateTime-Format-W3CDTF   noarch   0.04-8.el6              base       17 k
 perl-File-RsyncP              x86_64   0.68-6.el6              epel      100 k
 perl-HTML-Parser              x86_64   3.64-2.el6              base      109 k
 perl-HTML-Tagset              noarch   3.20-4.el6              base       17 k
 perl-IO-Compress-Base         x86_64   2.020-115.el6           base       65 k
 perl-IO-Compress-Zlib         x86_64   2.020-115.el6           base      132 k
 perl-List-MoreUtils           x86_64   0.22-10.el6             base       53 k
 perl-Net-FTP-AutoReconnect    noarch   0.3-3.el6               epel       11 k
 perl-Net-FTP-RetrHandle       noarch   0.2-3.el6               epel       16 k
 perl-Params-Validate          x86_64   0.92-3.el6              base       75 k
 perl-Time-modules             noarch   2006.0814-5.el6         base       38 k
 perl-URI                      noarch   1.40-2.el6              base      117 k
 perl-XML-Parser               x86_64   2.36-7.el6              base      224 k
 perl-XML-RSS                  noarch   1.45-2.el6              base       59 k
 perl-libwww-perl              noarch   5.833-2.el6             base      387 k
 policycoreutils               x86_64   2.0.83-19.8.el6_0       updates   675 k
 redhat-logos                  noarch   60.0.14-10.el6          base       10 M
 rsync                         x86_64   3.0.6-5.el6_0.1         updates   335 k
 samba-client                  x86_64   3.5.4-68.el6_0.2        updates    11 M
 samba-common                  x86_64   3.5.4-68.el6_0.2        updates    13 M
 samba-winbind-clients         x86_64   3.5.4-68.el6_0.2        updates   1.1 M
 ustr                          x86_64   1.0.4-9.1.el6           base       86 k

Transaction Summary
================================================================================
Install      43 Package(s)

Total download size: 43 M
Installed size: 129 M

Installed:
 BackupPC.x86_64 0:3.2.1-6.el6

Dependency Installed:
 apr.x86_64 0:1.3.9-3.el6_0.1
 apr-util.x86_64 0:1.3.9-3.el6_0.1
 apr-util-ldap.x86_64 0:1.3.9-3.el6_0.1
 checkpolicy.x86_64 0:2.0.22-1.el6
 dbus-glib.x86_64 0:0.86-5.el6
 expat.x86_64 0:2.0.1-9.1.el6
 httpd.x86_64 0:2.2.15-5.el6.centos
 httpd-tools.x86_64 0:2.2.15-5.el6.centos
 libselinux-utils.x86_64 0:2.0.94-2.el6
 libsemanage.x86_64 0:2.0.43-4.el6
 libtalloc.x86_64 0:2.0.1-1.1.el6
 libtdb.x86_64 0:1.2.1-2.el6
 mailcap.noarch 0:2.1.31-1.1.el6
 perl-Archive-Zip.noarch 0:1.30-2.el6
 perl-CGI.x86_64 0:3.49-115.el6
 perl-Class-Singleton.noarch 0:1.4-6.el6
 perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib.x86_64 0:2.023-115.el6
 perl-Compress-Zlib.x86_64 0:2.020-115.el6
 perl-DateTime.x86_64 1:0.5300-1.el6
 perl-DateTime-Format-Mail.noarch 0:0.3001-6.el6
 perl-DateTime-Format-W3CDTF.noarch 0:0.04-8.el6
 perl-File-RsyncP.x86_64 0:0.68-6.el6
 perl-HTML-Parser.x86_64 0:3.64-2.el6
 perl-HTML-Tagset.noarch 0:3.20-4.el6
 perl-IO-Compress-Base.x86_64 0:2.020-115.el6
 perl-IO-Compress-Zlib.x86_64 0:2.020-115.el6
 perl-List-MoreUtils.x86_64 0:0.22-10.el6
 perl-Net-FTP-AutoReconnect.noarch 0:0.3-3.el6
 perl-Net-FTP-RetrHandle.noarch 0:0.2-3.el6
 perl-Params-Validate.x86_64 0:0.92-3.el6
 perl-Time-modules.noarch 0:2006.0814-5.el6
 perl-URI.noarch 0:1.40-2.el6
 perl-XML-Parser.x86_64 0:2.36-7.el6
 perl-XML-RSS.noarch 0:1.45-2.el6
 perl-libwww-perl.noarch 0:5.833-2.el6
 policycoreutils.x86_64 0:2.0.83-19.8.el6_0
 redhat-logos.noarch 0:60.0.14-10.el6
 rsync.x86_64 0:3.0.6-5.el6_0.1
 samba-client.x86_64 0:3.5.4-68.el6_0.2
 samba-common.x86_64 0:3.5.4-68.el6_0.2
 samba-winbind-clients.x86_64 0:3.5.4-68.el6_0.2
 ustr.x86_64 0:1.0.4-9.1.el6


State Changed: unlock buildroot
State Changed: end

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On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo < at > gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks everyone, I assumed something that was not true.
This problem is behind me, I truly appreciate the help here - even though it
pointed out something that I failed to verify as working.
Once I added EPEL and then installed BackupPC it went as smoothly as anyone
would expect.
I added EPEL during RHEL installation, so I thought it was done.
Your messages prompted me to look and see if my assumption was correct and
finding it wasn't led me to success.

I'm just glad this was an easy one! (the fix anyway!)

Richard

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