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I have tried to extract some data from one of my backup servers and the directory and files are empty they appear to be there but when I extract the zip file nothing is there. Doesn’t seem to be any problems in the log files.

Thanks

On 12/06 04:05 , Greer, Jacob - District Tech wrote:
I have tried to extract some data from one of my backup servers and the directory and files are empty they appear to be there but when I extract the zip file nothing is there. Doesn't seem to be any problems in the log files.

Try creating a tarball instead of a zipfile and see how that works. There
are sometimes compatibility problems with the zip libraries.

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That is not it, the file size on all of the folders and files have 0 for the size. It appears as though nothing has been backed up.

Thanks

Jacob O. Greer

-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom [mailto:chrome < at > real-time.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 12:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] empty files

On 12/06 04:05 , Greer, Jacob - District Tech wrote:
I have tried to extract some data from one of my backup servers and the directory and files are empty they appear to be there but when I extract the zip file nothing is there. Doesn't seem to be any problems in the log files.

Try creating a tarball instead of a zipfile and see how that works. There are sometimes compatibility problems with the zip libraries.

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Carl Soderstrom
Systems Administrator
Real-Time Enterprises
www.real-time.com

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On 12/06 06:52 , Greer, Jacob - District Tech wrote:
That is not it, the file size on all of the folders and files have 0 for the size. It appears as though nothing has been backed up.

Ah, ok. I probably didn't read your original message closely enough then.

Are the files in the uncompressed pool also of 0 size, or only the
compressed pool?

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How would I check the only thing I see from the webpage is a file size zero it does not tell me compressed or un-compressed?

Thanks

Jacob O. Greer

-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom [mailto:chrome < at > real-time.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 2:52 PM
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] empty files

On 12/06 06:52 , Greer, Jacob - District Tech wrote:
That is not it, the file size on all of the folders and files have 0 for the size. It appears as though nothing has been backed up.

Ah, ok. I probably didn't read your original message closely enough then.

Are the files in the uncompressed pool also of 0 size, or only the compressed pool?

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Systems Administrator
Real-Time Enterprises
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On 12/06 08:26 , Greer, Jacob - District Tech wrote:
How would I check the only thing I see from the webpage is a file size zero it does not tell me compressed or un-compressed?

On a debian or ubuntu system the data is held in /var/lib/backuppc/. Under
that directory, the pool/ directory has the hashes of the uncompressed data,
the cpool/ directory has the compressed data.

I'm guessing you're not on a Debian system (or at least you didn't install
from a debian package), so I don't know where yours might be. I believe by
default the data will be compressed, so If you don't explicitly specify in
the configuration file for that host (or change the default value in
config.pl) that you want your data uncompressed, it's probably compressed.

For instance, I have a file /etc/backuppc/localhost.pl with the following
entry in it (among others):

# turning off compression on these files, so they can be recovered without
# backuppc.
# wouldn't make sense to need your backup server,
# in order to recover your backup server, now would it?
$Conf{CompressLevel} = 0;


So all the backups of files from the BackupPC server itself, are kept in
/var/lib/backuppc/pool. (Of course they're also linked to
/var/lib/backuppc/pc/localhost so they can be found by name as well). (In
case you're wondering, I put the BackupPC data pool on its own disk so if
the OS disk dies the backups are likely to still be good, and if the data
disk dies there is the OS disk there to help recover it).

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I greatly appreciate the information I looked and the data directory on the server has folders but no files best I can tell. I am new to Linux and BackupPC. This is a OpenSuse11 install that I did not setup. I am just trying to make it work. I am thinking about re-loading the server and staring all over.

Thanks again.

Jacob O. Greer

-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom [mailto:chrome < at > real-time.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2011 3:42 PM
To: General list for user discussion, questions and support
Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] empty files

On 12/06 08:26 , Greer, Jacob - District Tech wrote:
How would I check the only thing I see from the webpage is a file size zero it does not tell me compressed or un-compressed?

On a debian or ubuntu system the data is held in /var/lib/backuppc/. Under that directory, the pool/ directory has the hashes of the uncompressed data, the cpool/ directory has the compressed data.

I'm guessing you're not on a Debian system (or at least you didn't install from a debian package), so I don't know where yours might be. I believe by default the data will be compressed, so If you don't explicitly specify in the configuration file for that host (or change the default value in
config.pl) that you want your data uncompressed, it's probably compressed.

For instance, I have a file /etc/backuppc/localhost.pl with the following entry in it (among others):

# turning off compression on these files, so they can be recovered without # backuppc.
# wouldn't make sense to need your backup server, # in order to recover your backup server, now would it?
$Conf{CompressLevel} = 0;


So all the backups of files from the BackupPC server itself, are kept in
/var/lib/backuppc/pool. (Of course they're also linked to
/var/lib/backuppc/pc/localhost so they can be found by name as well). (In
case you're wondering, I put the BackupPC data pool on its own disk so if
the OS disk dies the backups are likely to still be good, and if the data
disk dies there is the OS disk there to help recover it).

--
Carl Soderstrom
Systems Administrator
Real-Time Enterprises
www.real-time.com

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On Tuesday 06 December 2011 22:41:32 Greer, Jacob - District Tech wrote:
I greatly appreciate the information I looked and the data directory on the
server has folders but no files best I can tell. I am new to Linux and
BackupPC. This is a OpenSuse11 install that I did not setup. I am just
trying to make it work. I am thinking about re-loading the server and
staring all over.

When the "target dir" has just empty folders, that okay. That means there
wasn't any change since the last full backup.

Please read the documentation, especially the part about restore. And stop
looking at the backuppc-internals before you did your reading;-)

Have fun,

Arnold

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On 12/06 09:41 , Greer, Jacob - District Tech wrote:
I greatly appreciate the information I looked and the data directory on the server has folders but no files best I can tell. I am new to Linux and BackupPC. This is a OpenSuse11 install that I did not setup. I am just trying to make it work. I am thinking about re-loading the server and staring all over.

My experience has been that the Debian and Ubuntu BackupPC packages 'just
work' right after install, with little futzing necessary. I have taught SuSE
administration classes, and I far prefer Debian-based systems. I heartily
encourage you to try installing Debian or Ubuntu on some spare hardware and
experiment with it.

To test your backup process, you can try running the backup 'by hand' with a
command like the following:

/usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_dump -f -v <hostname.domain.tld>

The path to the BackupPC_dump tool may be different on your system, but
that's the general invocation.

Note that:
* you must be running as the backuppc user when executing this command
* the name of the host (<hostname.domain.tld>) needs to be the same as in
the /etc/backuppc/hosts file.

--
Carl Soderstrom
Systems Administrator
Real-Time Enterprises
www.real-time.com

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