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Hello,

I have a problem with my personnal cycle tape. Let's see how it works :

I have 20 tapes who are changed everyday. Everytime the 20s tape comes, I
put it in a box during 365 days.

It's like that :

1-
2-
3-
4-
5-
.
.
.
20------> In the box during 1 year

And so on...

1- (New tape)
2- (Ex 1st tape)
3- (Ex 2nd tape)
.
.
.
20------> In the box during 1 year


You see my problem ? I haven't the same retention times for the tapes who
are rewritted every 20 days, and those who are keeped during one year.

The problem is that I put the catalog name in the client... and as I know, I
can't have two same client right ?

I can't find any solution, excepted keeping files, jobs and volumes during
only 20 days and save the catalog in each tape, and rebuilt the catalog to
recover datas... But that's not easy to use..

Can someone has an idea ?

Thanks !
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On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:01 AM, gnowar <g.nowar < at > gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

I have a problem with my personnal cycle tape. Let's see how it works :

I have 20 tapes who are changed everyday. Everytime the 20s tape comes, I
put it in a box during 365 days.

It's like that :

1-
2-
3-
4-
5-
.
.
.
20------> In the box during 1 year

And so on...

1- (New tape)
2- (Ex 1st tape)
3- (Ex 2nd tape)
.
.
.
20------> In the box during 1 year


You see my problem ? I haven't the same retention times for the tapes who
are rewritted every 20 days, and those who are keeped during one year.

The problem is that I put the catalog name, the file and job retention in
the client definition... and as I know, I can't have two same client right ?

I can't find any solution, excepted keeping files, jobs and volumes during
only 20 days and save the catalog in each tape, and rebuilt the catalog to
recover datas... But that's not easy to use..

Can someone has an idea ?


Use 1 pool for the tapes you keep for 1 year and 1 pool for the tapes
that you rotate. Adjust your schedule to make a full backup to the
"Year Pool" every 20 days.

John

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Well, it looks like I can create 2 same client with a different name.. THAT'S
GREAT !

gnowar wrote:

Hello,

I have a problem with my personnal cycle tape. Let's see how it works :

I have 20 tapes who are changed everyday. Everytime the 20s tape comes, I
put it in a box during 365 days.

It's like that :

1-
2-
3-
4-
5-
.
.
.
20------> In the box during 1 year

And so on...

1- (New tape)
2- (Ex 1st tape)
3- (Ex 2nd tape)
.
.
.
20------> In the box during 1 year


You see my problem ? I haven't the same retention times for the tapes who
are rewritted every 20 days, and those who are keeped during one year.

The problem is that I put the catalog name, the file and job retention in
the client definition... and as I know, I can't have two same client right
?

I can't find any solution, excepted keeping files, jobs and volumes during
only 20 days and save the catalog in each tape, and rebuilt the catalog to
recover datas... But that's not easy to use..

Can someone has an idea ?

Thanks !


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I don't know if it's "normal", but I can't reuse a tape if files and jobs are
not pruned, even if the volume is. Files retention and Jobs retention ar
definited in the client section.

Plus, how can I say to bacula, "use this pool every twentieth backup" ?


John M. Drescher wrote:

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:01 AM, gnowar <g.nowar < at > gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

I have a problem with my personnal cycle tape. Let's see how it works :

I have 20 tapes who are changed everyday. Everytime the 20s tape comes, I
put it in a box during 365 days.

It's like that :

1-
2-
3-
4-
5-
.
.
.
20------> In the box during 1 year

And so on...

1- (New tape)
2- (Ex 1st tape)
3- (Ex 2nd tape)
.
.
.
20------> In the box during 1 year


You see my problem ? I haven't the same retention times for the tapes who
are rewritted every 20 days, and those who are keeped during one year.

The problem is that I put the catalog name, the file and job retention in
the client definition... and as I know, I can't have two same client
right ?

I can't find any solution, excepted keeping files, jobs and volumes
during
only 20 days and save the catalog in each tape, and rebuilt the catalog
to
recover datas... But that's not easy to use..

Can someone has an idea ?


Use 1 pool for the tapes you keep for 1 year and 1 pool for the tapes
that you rotate. Adjust your schedule to make a full backup to the
"Year Pool" every 20 days.

John

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I don't know if it's "normal", but I can't reuse a tape if files and jobs are
not pruned, even if the volume is. Files retention and Jobs retention ar
definited in the client section.

If the volume is pruned then the jobs and files on that volume have to
be pruned. If bacula is not operating this way this is a bug.


Plus, how can I say to bacula, "use this pool every twentieth backup" ?


You need to modify your schedule how I explained in my first post.

See the examples in the documentation here:
http://www.bacula.org/en/dev-manual/Configuring_Director.html#SECTION001450000000000000000

John

John

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If the volume is pruned then the jobs and files on that volume have to
be pruned. If bacula is not operating this way this is a bug.

I think it is. I understood that should works this way when I read the spec
but that doesn't work on my system..

You need to modify your schedule how I explained in my first post.

As you saw, I don't speak english so well, I didn't find anything relevent
in the spec you gave me. I understand how to use one pool for the twentieth
day of a month, but not for every 20 days. It's different cause it's
completly random comared to the day, of a month (I don't know if I'm clear,
that should work like a "counter" ?)

I don't know if it's possible, and if it is, that's the key of my problem.

Hope you understand me.

Thx for your help

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On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:22 AM, gnowar <g.nowar < at > gmail.com> wrote:

If the volume is pruned then the jobs and files on that volume have to
be pruned. If bacula is not operating this way this is a bug.

I think it is. I understood that should works this way when I read the spec
but that doesn't work on my system..


What is the status of that volume?

Use the console list media command:

list media


You need to modify your schedule how I explained in my first post.

As you saw, I don't speak english so well,

Yes. I guarantee that your English is better than the only other
language I know somewhat..

I didn't find anything relevent
in the spec you gave me. I understand how to use one pool for the twentieth
day of a month, but not for every 20 days. It's different cause it's
completly random comared to the day, of a month (I don't know if I'm clear,
that should work like a "counter" ?)


I think you are correct. There does not appear to be an easy way to
schedule this.


I don't know if it's possible, and if it is, that's the key of my problem.


You could use a bash script that feeds commands to bconsole to force
bacula to run jobs on the 20th day.

Hope you understand me.

I'm trying..

John

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ok, there does not appear to be an easy way to schedule for every 20 days. But for every 21 days it can by easy:

w01, w04, w07, w10, w13, ... w5x Mon at 22:00

will do the trick!

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On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:22 AM, gnowar <g.nowar < at > gmail.com ([email]g.nowar < at > gmail.com[/email])> wrote:

If the volume is pruned then the jobs and files on that volume have to
be pruned. If bacula is not operating this way this is a bug.

I think it is. I understood that should works this way when I read the spec
but that doesn't work on my system..



What is the status of that volume?

Use the console list media command:

list media


You need to modify your schedule how I explained in my first post.

As you saw, I don't speak english so well,


Yes. I guarantee that your English is better than the only other
language I know somewhat..

 I didn't find anything relevent
in the spec you gave me. I understand how to use one pool for the twentieth
day of a month, but not for every 20 days. It's different cause it's
completly random comared to the day, of a month (I don't know if I'm clear,
that should work like a "counter" ?)



I think you are correct. There does not appear to be an easy way to
schedule this.


I don't know if it's possible, and if it is, that's the key of my problem.



You could use a bash script that feeds commands to bconsole to force
bacula to run jobs on the 20th day.

Hope you understand me.

I'm trying..

John


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