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Is there a yum-way (or RPM) to install bacula-director and
bacula-storage on a system when the database (Pg) is on another system?

Yum keeps wanting to install postgresql-server as a dependency.



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On 03/09/10 18:37, Roderick A. Anderson wrote:
Is there a yum-way (or RPM) to install bacula-director and
bacula-storage on a system when the database (Pg) is on another system?

Yum keeps wanting to install postgresql-server as a dependency.

I don't think you can do it without installing the database as well.
But nothing says you have to actually fire the db up and use it.


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On 10.3.2010 1:37, Roderick A. Anderson wrote:
Is there a yum-way (or RPM) to install bacula-director and
bacula-storage on a system when the database (Pg) is on another system?

Yum keeps wanting to install postgresql-server as a dependency.


This is apparently a question on CentOS developers. Bacula project has
no powers into the matter.

Easy solution: install the postgresql but disable it. Takes some disk
but otherwise harmless.

Pretty dumb dependency though.

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Roderick A. Anderson wrote:
Is there a yum-way (or RPM) to install bacula-director and
bacula-storage on a system when the database (Pg) is on another system?

Yum keeps wanting to install postgresql-server as a dependency.

Thanks Phil and Jari for the ideas.

Did some more thinking and looking and found a source RPM for 5.0.0-1.
It didn't build the packages, probably because of some error the flew by
before I had a chance to catch it. Piped to less next try.

The source RPM was by D. Scott Barninger but I can't remember which
site/repo I got it from (a week or so ago when I first started on this
trek.)

I'm thinking I might be going the source route if this doesn't flow
smoother soon.


Rod
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This is apparently a question on CentOS developers. Bacula project has
no powers into the matter.

As far as I know, an rpm's dependency is well, derived by he who writes
spec. devel for building, but server for install? Maybe the spec needs
fixing.

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On 03/09/10 19:10, Jari Fredriksson wrote:
On 10.3.2010 1:37, Roderick A. Anderson wrote:
Is there a yum-way (or RPM) to install bacula-director and
bacula-storage on a system when the database (Pg) is on another system?

Yum keeps wanting to install postgresql-server as a dependency.


This is apparently a question on CentOS developers. Bacula project has
no powers into the matter.

Easy solution: install the postgresql but disable it. Takes some disk
but otherwise harmless.

Pretty dumb dependency though.

Actually, no, it's not. Both of those packages have dependencies upon,
or include tools that have dependencies upon, the applicable database
package. In the normal case, you hopefully won't need them, but if (for
instance) you ever need to regenerate a catalog from volumes with bscan,
well .... bscan needs to be able to talk to the DB.


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From: Roderick A. Anderson <raanders < at > cyber-office.net>
Is there a yum-way (or RPM) to install bacula-director and
bacula-storage on a system when the database (Pg) is on another system?
Yum keeps wanting to install postgresql-server as a dependency.

Otherwise, install with rpm --nodeps...

JD




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On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:37:56 -0500, Phil Stracchino said:

On 03/09/10 19:10, Jari Fredriksson wrote:
On 10.3.2010 1:37, Roderick A. Anderson wrote:
Is there a yum-way (or RPM) to install bacula-director and
bacula-storage on a system when the database (Pg) is on another system?

Yum keeps wanting to install postgresql-server as a dependency.


This is apparently a question on CentOS developers. Bacula project has
no powers into the matter.

Easy solution: install the postgresql but disable it. Takes some disk
but otherwise harmless.

Pretty dumb dependency though.

Actually, no, it's not. Both of those packages have dependencies upon,
or include tools that have dependencies upon, the applicable database
package. In the normal case, you hopefully won't need them, but if (for
instance) you ever need to regenerate a catalog from volumes with bscan,
well .... bscan needs to be able to talk to the DB.

Which server things does it need? It should be just the client libs and tools
like psql (assuming they are packaged separately from the server).

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Thomas Bennett wrote:
Are there not more than one bacula packages? On Fedora using yum you can
choose which build and the name of the build basically indicates the
dependency if it is a database.


yum search bacula

Thanks Thomas

Been there, done that and have several tee-shirts.

bacula-director-common.x86_64 : Common Bacula Director files
bacula-director-mysql.x86_64 : Bacula Director with MySQL database support
bacula-director-postgresql.x86_64 : Bacula Director with PostgresSQL database
support
bacula-director-sqlite.x86_64 : Bacula Director with sqlite database support
bacula-storage-common.x86_64 : Common Bacula storage daemon files
bacula-storage-mysql.x86_64 : MySQL Bacula storage daemon files
bacula-storage-postgresql.x86_64 : Common Bacula storage daemon files
bacula-storage-sqlite.x86_64 : SQLite Bacula storage daemon files

yum install bacula-common bacula-director-postgresql
bacula-storage-postgresql --enablerepo=epel

** Then a more careful look shows me this is for Version 2.0.3 ***

Installing:
bacula-client i386 2.0.3-10.el5 epel 568 k
bacula-common i386 2.0.3-10.el5 epel 354 k
bacula-director-postgresql i386 2.0.3-10.el5 epel 832 k
bacula-storage-postgresql i386 2.0.3-10.el5 epel 364 k
Installing for dependencies:
bacula-director-common i386 2.0.3-10.el5 epel 169 k
bacula-storage-common i386 2.0.3-10.el5 epel 1.6 M
fedora-usermgmt noarch 0.8.91-1.el5 epel 6.6 k
fedora-usermgmt-core noarch 0.8.91-1.el5 epel 7.6 k
fedora-usermgmt-default-fedora-setup noarch 0.8.91-1.el5 epel 6.6 k
fedora-usermgmt-shadow-utils noarch 0.8.91-1.el5 epel 7.4 k
postgresql-server i386 8.1.18-2.el5_4.1 updates 3.8 M

And ... I'm running PostgreSQL 8.3 and 8.4 on their own. Plus there is
a postgresql package with "client programs".

I'm off to explore other options e.g. install from source. To get a
more recent version. I prefer packages as "Bus Insurance" so I'll look
into how to make the RPMs while at it.


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On Tuesday 09 March 2010 18:37:08 Roderick A. Anderson wrote:
Is there a yum-way (or RPM) to install bacula-director and
bacula-storage on a system when the database (Pg) is on another system?

Yum keeps wanting to install postgresql-server as a dependency.



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