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I took over a shop that was running CV7/Server 2003 media servers several months ago.
I was told that the previous backup admin, had issues using a Data Domain appliance as a backup target.
So I upgraded the CV environment to CV8 sp2/Server 2008 sp2.
Backups seem to run fine, but I'm having issues with restores.
Data Domain confirmed that Server 2008 is dropping the connection to the appliance, causing restores to fail.
So I'm going to rebuild the media server back to Server 2003 so that I can see if I experience the problems the previous backup admin had.
But I'm also thinking about Solaris 10...

Is there anything that I would lose with using Solaris 10?
Is anyone running Solaris 10 as a media server?
I would like to see what your experiences are with Solaris 10 as a media server. Not necessarily with Data Domain.

I some have Linux background, but not specially with Solaris.

Thanks


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Post [commvault] OS for Media Server 

But I'm also thinking about Solaris 10...

Is there anything that I would lose with using Solaris 10?
Is anyone running Solaris 10 as a media server?
I would like to see what your experiences are with Solaris 10 as a media server.  Not necessarily with Data Domain.

I some have Linux background, but not specially with Solaris. 

gmsamuel07,


I admin a CommCell with 7 Solaris 10 MAs.  They run very well, all things considered...In fact, I'd say you would be hard pressed to do better (but I'm totally biased here as I've been a Solaris admin for over 10 years).  But with that comes some BIG caveats.  First, I am running CV7 not 8...and I have no plans to for at least 2 more service packs.  I have heard some VERY disturbing (and downright scary) things about CV8 MA support/performance on Solaris x86 which makes up  6 of my 7 MAs (Sparc support is supposed to be much better).  Also, Solaris is not Linux.  From an administration perspective, the devil is in the details and there are a whole lot of little differences between the two.  Honestly, if you know Linux, I'd say use Linux, it will be better performing then Windows (at least 32 bit Windows) but I can't speak to the Linux MA support.  Maybe install Solaris 10 in a VM and play with it until you get the lay of the land (how Sun does things).


Hope this helps
--Brett 

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hello,

We have a commcell with 6 solaris 10 x86 machines and 1 linux (centos).
No trouble at all, about 1300 clients in the commcell and about 1500 jobs / day.

We did choose solaris 10 mainly because of zfs znd the fact that solaris 10 now is free to use.
I agree that the support for sol10 x86 was lacking at fisrt in cv7. They lack support for NDMP.
But after a few chats with CommVault they did release NDMP support for the x86-platform as well.

We did upgrade to CV8 3 weeks ago, and its still working Smile

But like gmsamuel07 said, solaris isnt linux, but if you have good knowledge in linux, solaris should not be a big problem.

// fraggeln

On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 06:09:41PM -0700, Brett Monroe wrote:

But I'm also thinking about Solaris 10...
Is there anything that I would lose with using Solaris 10?
Is anyone running Solaris 10 as a media server?
I would like to see what your experiences are with Solaris 10 as a
media server. Not necessarily with Data Domain.
I some have Linux background, but not specially with Solaris.

gmsamuel07,
I admin a CommCell with 7 Solaris 10 MAs. They run very well, all
things considered...In fact, I'd say you would be hard pressed to do
better (but I'm totally biased here as I've been a Solaris admin for
over 10 years). But with that comes some BIG caveats. First, I am
running CV7 not 8...and I have no plans to for at least 2 more service
packs. I have heard some VERY disturbing (and downright scary) things
about CV8 MA support/performance on Solaris x86 which makes up 6 of my
7 MAs (Sparc support is supposed to be much better). Also, Solaris is
not Linux. From an administration perspective, the devil is in the
details and there are a whole lot of little differences between the
two. Honestly, if you know Linux, I'd say use Linux, it will be better
performing then Windows (at least 32 bit Windows) but I can't speak to
the Linux MA support. Maybe install Solaris 10 in a VM and play with
it until you get the lay of the land (how Sun does things).
Hope this helps
--Brett


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Hi Brett,

Can you please give us the details on the disturbing things you heard about Solaris x86 MAs in V8.0?

Thanks,
Manoj


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But I'm also thinking about Solaris 10...

Is there anything that I would lose with using Solaris 10?
Is anyone running Solaris 10 as a media server?
I would like to see what your experiences are with Solaris 10 as a media server. Not necessarily with Data Domain.

I some have Linux background, but not specially with Solaris.


gmsamuel07,



I admin a CommCell with 7 Solaris 10 MAs. They run very well, all things considered...In fact, I'd say you would be hard pressed to do better (but I'm totally biased here as I've been a Solaris admin for over 10 years). But with that comes some BIG caveats. First, I am running CV7 not 8...and I have no plans to for at least 2 more service packs. I have heard some VERY disturbing (and downright scary) things about CV8 MA support/performance on Solaris x86 which makes up 6 of my 7 MAs (Sparc support is supposed to be much better). Also, Solaris is not Linux. From an administration perspective, the devil is in the details and there are a whole lot of little differences between the two. Honestly, if you know Linux, I'd say use Linux, it will be better performing then Windows (at least 32 bit Windows) but I can't speak to the Linux MA support. Maybe install Solaris 10 in a VM and play with it until you get the lay of the land (how Sun does things).



Hope this helps

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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3c.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/loose.dtd"> We use Solaris 10 (Sparc) Media Agents - T5220

I like them a lot, with Ethernet link aggregation we get 4GbE on board and many clients come over the IP network, ZFS is seamless, we use grid-stor to an NFS shared index cache, no problems!

-J
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But I'm also thinking about Solaris 10...

Is there anything that I would lose with using Solaris 10?
Is anyone running Solaris 10 as a media server?
I would like to see what your experiences are with Solaris 10 as a media server. Not necessarily with Data Domain.

I some have Linux background, but not specially with Solaris.

gmsamuel07,


I admin a CommCell with 7 Solaris 10 MAs. They run very well, all things considered...In fact, I'd say you would be hard pressed to do better (but I'm totally biased here as I've been a Solaris admin for over 10 years). But with that comes some BIG caveats. First, I am running CV7 not 8...and I have no plans to for at least 2 more service packs. I have heard some VERY disturbing (and downright scary) things about CV8 MA support/performance on Solaris x86 which makes up 6 of my 7 MAs (Sparc support is supposed to be much better). Also, Solaris is not Linux. From an administration perspective, the devil is in the details and there are a whole lot of little differences between the two. Honestly, if you know Linux, I'd say use Linux, it will be better performing then Windows (at least 32 bit Windows) but I can't speak to the Linux MA support. Maybe install Solaris 10 in a VM and play with it until you get the lay of the land (how Sun does things).


Hope this helps
--Brett



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Post [commvault] OS for Media Server 
Manoj,

I don't want to stir up a hornets nest here so I will try to be vague. Smile Also please understand that these are purely anecdotal as I am still using v7 but I do trust the source.  The main new MA features in v8, deduplication and aux-copy multiplexing, are what I've been hearing the most about (again, w/ regards to Solaris x86 MAs).  The CV shop was having no end of problems with both, mostly with regards to performance and mostly w/r to deduping where they were getting horrible performance.  Also they claimed that the CV support told them that the deduping functionality was never QA'd on the Solaris x86 platform which worries me greatly.  I'm sure these issues will get worked out and I look forward to that time, but I doubt I will be upgrading to v8 until early next year.

Thanks
--Brett

On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 1:47 AM, Manoj Kumar <mkumar < at > commvault.com ([email]mkumar < at > commvault.com[/email])> wrote:



Hi Brett,
 
Can you please give us the details on the disturbing things you heard about Solaris x86 MAs in V8.0?
 
Thanks,
Manoj
 
 
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But I'm also thinking about Solaris 10...

Is there anything that I would lose with using Solaris 10?
Is anyone running Solaris 10 as a media server?
I would like to see what your experiences are with Solaris 10 as a media server.  Not necessarily with Data Domain.

I some have Linux background, but not specially with Solaris. 

 
gmsamuel07,

 

I admin a CommCell with 7 Solaris 10 MAs.  They run very well, all things considered...In fact, I'd say you would be hard pressed to do better (but I'm totally biased here as I've been a Solaris admin for over 10 years).  But with that comes some BIG caveats.  First, I am running CV7 not 8...and I have no plans to for at least 2 more service packs.  I have heard some VERY disturbing (and downright scary) things about CV8 MA support/performance on Solaris x86 which makes up  6 of my 7 MAs (Sparc support is supposed to be much better).  Also, Solaris is not Linux.  From an administration perspective, the devil is in the details and there are a whole lot of little differences between the two.  Honestly, if you know Linux, I'd say use Linux, it will be better performing then Windows (at least 32 bit Windows) but I can't speak to the Linux MA support.  Maybe install Solaris 10 in a VM and play with it until you get the lay of the land (how Sun does things).

 

Hope this helps

--Brett 

























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