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Good Day.
I am having trouble trying to understand how to setup Daily, Weekly and Monthly Backups.
Can you help me out?
I have like 5 servers that I want to backup Daily then a Full on the Weekend and a Full the last day of the Month.
How do I know what tapes are those backups using so when the Monthly backup ends I can take that tape Offsite.
Thanks a lot.
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Here's how I do mine:
In my storage policy, I have the retention set as 30 days, 1 cycle. I then use the Extended Retention rules for full backups area. I have the checkbox set For 180 days, keep Monthly Full and then the drop down below says For Monthly Full Rule the month starts on 1, and then below that, I have the radio button selected for Last Full Backup of Time Period.
What this does is that when the 1st of the month comes, commvault looks to see when my last full backup was, and then it retroactively promotes the retention of that job to 180 days instead of the 30 days in the general rule.
Now, for mine, I don't care that it is on exactly the last day of the month. I just want whatever the last full of the month was. So it's usually the last Friday of the month. However, if that backup failed for some reason, it will go the week prior and promote that one to 180 days... so I only have 2 schedules. An incremental and a full.
You'll just have to make an extra schedule to do 'Last Day' in the monthly section of the scheduler for that client. So you'll have an incremental schedule (either in the daily or weekly section), a weekly full schedule and a last day monthly schedule.
If you wanted it to be a more manual process, where each month you pick the fulls for extra retention, you could make another storage policy copy for Selective Fulls, but I don't use those, so I couldn't give any advice on that.
ng g1900 <ngg1900 < at > yahoo.com> 3/16/2011 11:25 AM >>>
Good Day.
I am having trouble trying to understand how to setup Daily, Weekly and Monthly Backups.
Can you help me out?
I have like 5 servers that I want to backup Daily then a Full on the Weekend and a Full the last day of the Month.
How do I know what tapes are those backups using so when the Monthly backup ends I can take that tape Offsite.
Thanks a lot.
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Also, regarding the tapes that the backup used, if you can find the backup jobs in the Job History (right click the client - > View - > Job History -> OK) you can right-click the specific jobs and select View Media.
ng g1900 <ngg1900 < at > yahoo.com> 3/16/2011 11:25 AM >>>
Good Day.
I am having trouble trying to understand how to setup Daily, Weekly and Monthly Backups.
Can you help me out?
I have like 5 servers that I want to backup Daily then a Full on the Weekend and a Full the last day of the Month.
How do I know what tapes are those backups using so when the Monthly backup ends I can take that tape Offsite.
Thanks a lot.
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| Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:56 am |
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Bill Willis
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This is a Your Mileage May Vary moment. I get good tape density by giving my incremental backups their own storage policy (Incremental Storage Policy) and running all of my full backups on the same day of the week. Therefore, the extended retention always applies to all of the backups on that storage policy that completed successfully on that date.
Kris <semeye < at > gmail.com> 3/16/2011 12:04 PM >>>
Extended retention is a nice and easy way to do this, however it's also the worst way to achieve good tape density. What ends up happening is you'll have a single job residing on an 800 GB LTO4 tape and that tape wont be used again until all data is aged off.
For my storage policies that require extended retention, I set up additional aux copies in the storage policy, specifically selective copies, which only copy the full backup that you specify, such as end of month or end of year, etc. I keep these aux copies in the library at all times so when next month's job fires off, it will pull the same tape. this give me all of my monthly fulls and yearly fulls on a single tape rather then using 1 tape for each extended job.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Bill Willis <bill.willis < at > swgas.com ([email]bill.willis < at > swgas.com[/email])> wrote:
Also, regarding the tapes that the backup used, if you can find the backup jobs in the Job History (right click the client - > View - > Job History -> OK) you can right-click the specific jobs and select View Media.
ng g1900 <ngg1900 < at > yahoo.com ([email]ngg1900 < at > yahoo.com[/email])> 3/16/2011 11:25 AM >>>
Good Day.
I am having trouble trying to understand how to setup Daily, Weekly and Monthly Backups.
Can you help me out?
I have like 5 servers that I want to backup Daily then a Full on the Weekend and a Full the last day of the Month.
How do I know what tapes are those backups using so when the Monthly backup ends I can take that tape Offsite.
Thanks a lot.
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Extended retention is a nice and easy way to do this, however it's also the worst way to achieve good tape density. What ends up happening is you'll have a single job residing on an 800 GB LTO4 tape and that tape wont be used again until all data is aged off.
For my storage policies that require extended retention, I set up additional aux copies in the storage policy, specifically selective copies, which only copy the full backup that you specify, such as end of month or end of year, etc. I keep these aux copies in the library at all times so when next month's job fires off, it will pull the same tape. this give me all of my monthly fulls and yearly fulls on a single tape rather then using 1 tape for each extended job.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Bill Willis <bill.willis < at > swgas.com ([email]bill.willis < at > swgas.com[/email])> wrote:
Also, regarding the tapes that the backup used, if you can find the backup jobs in the Job History (right click the client - > View - > Job History -> OK) you can right-click the specific jobs and select View Media.
ng g1900 <ngg1900 < at > yahoo.com ([email]ngg1900 < at > yahoo.com[/email])> 3/16/2011 11:25 AM >>>
Good Day.
I am having trouble trying to understand how to setup Daily, Weekly and Monthly Backups.
Can you help me out?
I have like 5 servers that I want to backup Daily then a Full on the Weekend and a Full the last day of the Month.
How do I know what tapes are those backups using so when the Monthly backup ends I can take that tape Offsite.
Thanks a lot.
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So can I use extended retention for the Weekly and Monthly backups?
Also data aging only deletes the data for a particular job in a tape or it marks the Whole tape as appendable?
Thanks.
From: Bill Willis <bill.willis < at > swgas.com>
To: Kris <semeye < at > gmail.com>; commvault < at > yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 1:09:45 PM
Subject: Re: [commvault] Setup Daily, Weekly and Monthly jobs
This is a Your Mileage May Vary moment. I get good tape density by giving my incremental backups their own storage policy (Incremental Storage Policy) and running all of my full backups on the same day of the week. Therefore, the extended retention always applies to all of the backups on that storage policy that completed successfully on that date.
Kris <semeye < at > gmail.com> 3/16/2011 12:04 PM >>>
Extended retention is a nice and easy way to do this, however it's also the worst way to achieve good tape density. What ends up happening is you'll have a single job residing on an 800 GB LTO4 tape and that tape wont be used again until all data is aged off.
For my storage policies that require extended retention, I set up additional aux copies in the storage policy, specifically selective copies, which only copy the full backup that you specify, such as end of month or end of year, etc. I keep these aux copies in the library at all times so when next month's job fires off, it will pull the same tape. this give me all of my monthly fulls and yearly fulls on a single tape rather then using 1 tape for each extended job.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Bill Willis <bill.willis < at > swgas.com ([email]bill.willis < at > swgas.com[/email])> wrote:
Also, regarding the tapes that the backup used, if you can find the backup jobs in the Job History (right click the client - > View - > Job History -> OK) you can right-click the specific jobs and select View Media.
ng g1900 <ngg1900 < at > yahoo.com ([email]ngg1900 < at > yahoo.com[/email])> 3/16/2011 11:25 AM >>>
Good Day.
I am having trouble trying to understand how to setup Daily, Weekly and Monthly Backups.
Can you help me out?
I have like 5 servers that I want to backup Daily then a Full on the Weekend and a Full the last day of the Month.
How do I know what tapes are those backups using so when the Monthly backup ends I can take that tape Offsite.
Thanks a lot.
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Let's say a tape is marked full. Later on, data aging will mark one or more of the jobs on that tape as aged, but the tape is still marked full. It also means that this backup can still be used for restore. It's usually not a good idea to mark it appendable because tapes like to write from beginning to end, not in holes and gaps. You would either wait for all jobs to age or for enough jobs to age for you to not care about the remaining jobs and then you run a "delete content" from the tape to make it usable again.
What Kris said earlier applies here. If you use Extended retention rules and you mix incremental backups along with fulls and extended fulls on the same set of tapes, you end up with tapes that, after 30 days (for example), will only have 25% of their data left and 75% of it marked as aged (or even worse than that).
The way I get around this problem of low tape density due to aging is to make a different storage policy for my incremental backups.
You'll notice when you create a storage policy, that you can associate an "Incremental Storage Policy" to go with it.
Here's an example:
I have a storage policy called A and a storage policy called A-Incremental. I make A-Incremental the incremental storage policy to A.
I set my client C to use Storage policy A. When C does a full backup, it uses the rules from Storage Policy A. When C does an incremental backup, it knows to use Storage Policy A-Incremental.
The nice thing about using my incremental storage policies is that the incremental policy doesn't have extended retention rules. All jobs on those tapes will be aged at the same time. Your tape is either full or it's reusable.
I run it this way because I find it more convenient than using a Selective Copy on my storage policy. Each company is different though. You may need to brainstorm your configuration with others to see how things will work.
ng g1900 <ngg1900 < at > yahoo.com> 3/16/2011 4:30 PM >>>
So can I use extended retention for the Weekly and Monthly backups?
Also data aging only deletes the data for a particular job in a tape or it marks the Whole tape as appendable?
Thanks.
From: Bill Willis <bill.willis < at > swgas.com>
To: Kris <semeye < at > gmail.com>; commvault < at > yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 1:09:45 PM
Subject: Re: [commvault] Setup Daily, Weekly and Monthly jobs
This is a Your Mileage May Vary moment. I get good tape density by giving my incremental backups their own storage policy (Incremental Storage Policy) and running all of my full backups on the same day of the week. Therefore, the extended retention always applies to all of the backups on that storage policy that completed successfully on that date.
Kris <semeye < at > gmail.com> 3/16/2011 12:04 PM >>>
Extended retention is a nice and easy way to do this, however it's also the worst way to achieve good tape density. What ends up happening is you'll have a single job residing on an 800 GB LTO4 tape and that tape wont be used again until all data is aged off.
For my storage policies that require extended retention, I set up additional aux copies in the storage policy, specifically selective copies, which only copy the full backup that you specify, such as end of month or end of year, etc. I keep these aux copies in the library at all times so when next month's job fires off, it will pull the same tape. this give me all of my monthly fulls and yearly fulls on a single tape rather then using 1 tape for each extended job.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Bill Willis <bill.willis < at > swgascom ([email]bill.willis < at > swgas.com[/email])> wrote:
Also, regarding the tapes that the backup used, if you can find the backup jobs in the Job History (right click the client - > View - > Job History -> OK) you can right-click the specific jobs and select View Media.
ng g1900 <ngg1900 < at > yahoo.com ([email]ngg1900 < at > yahoo.com[/email])> 3/16/2011 11:25 AM >>>
Good Day.
I am having trouble trying to understand how to setup Daily, Weekly and Monthly Backups.
Can you help me out?
I have like 5 servers that I want to backup Daily then a Full on the Weekend and a Full the last day of the Month.
How do I know what tapes are those backups using so when the Monthly backup ends I can take that tape Offsite.
Thanks a lot.
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Thanks for your suggestions.
Let me re-check your notes.
From: Bill Willis <bill.willis < at > swgas.com>
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Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 5:39:58 PM
Subject: Re: [commvault] Setup Daily, Weekly and Monthly jobs
Let's say a tape is marked full. Later on, data aging will mark one or more of the jobs on that tape as aged, but the tape is still marked full. It also means that this backup can still be used for restore. It's usually not a good idea to mark it appendable because tapes like to write from beginning to end, not in holes and gaps. You would either wait for all jobs to age or for enough jobs to age for you to not care about the remaining jobs and then you run a "delete content" from the tape to make it usable again.
What Kris said earlier applies here. If you use Extended retention rules and you mix incremental backups along with fulls and extended fulls on the same set of tapes, you end up with tapes that, after 30 days (for example), will only have 25% of their data left and 75% of it marked as aged (or even worse than that).
The way I get around this problem of low tape density due to aging is to make a different storage policy for my incremental backups.
You'll notice when you create a storage policy, that you can associate an "Incremental Storage Policy" to go with it.
Here's an example:
I have a storage policy called A and a storage policy called A-Incremental. I make A-Incremental the incremental storage policy to A.
I set my client C to use Storage policy A. When C does a full backup, it uses the rules from Storage Policy A. When C does an incremental backup, it knows to use Storage Policy A-Incremental.
The nice thing about using my incremental storage policies is that the incremental policy doesn't have extended retention rules. All jobs on those tapes will be aged at the same time. Your tape is either full or it's reusable.
I run it this way because I find it more convenient than using a Selective Copy on my storage policy. Each company is different though. You may need to brainstorm your configuration with others to see how things will work.
ng g1900 <ngg1900 < at > yahoo.com> 3/16/2011 4:30 PM >>>
So can I use extended retention for the Weekly and Monthly backups?
Also data aging only deletes the data for a particular job in a tape or it marks the Whole tape as appendable?
Thanks.
From: Bill Willis <bill.willis < at > swgas.com>
To: Kris <semeye < at > gmail.com>; commvault < at > yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 1:09:45 PM
Subject: Re: [commvault] Setup Daily, Weekly and Monthly jobs
This is a Your Mileage May Vary moment. I get good tape density by giving my incremental backups their own storage policy (Incremental Storage Policy) and running all of my full backups on the same day of the week. Therefore, the extended retention always applies to all of the backups on that storage policy that completed successfully on that date.
Kris <semeye < at > gmail.com> 3/16/2011 12:04 PM >>>
Extended retention is a nice and easy way to do this, however it's also the worst way to achieve good tape density. What ends up happening is you'll have a single job residing on an 800 GB LTO4 tape and that tape wont be used again until all data is aged off.
For my storage policies that require extended retention, I set up additional aux copies in the storage policy, specifically selective copies, which only copy the full backup that you specify, such as end of month or end of year, etc. I keep these aux copies in the library at all times so when next month's job fires off, it will pull the same tape. this give me all of my monthly fulls and yearly fulls on a single tape rather then using 1 tape for each extended job.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Bill Willis <bill.willis < at > swgascom ([email]bill.willis < at > swgas.com[/email])> wrote:
Also, regarding the tapes that the backup used, if you can find the backup jobs in the Job History (right click the client - > View - > Job History -> OK) you can right-click the specific jobs and select View Media.
ng g1900 <ngg1900 < at > yahoo.com ([email]ngg1900 < at > yahoo.com[/email])> 3/16/2011 11:25 AM >>>
Good Day.
I am having trouble trying to understand how to setup Daily, Weekly and Monthly Backups.
Can you help me out?
I have like 5 servers that I want to backup Daily then a Full on the Weekend and a Full the last day of the Month.
How do I know what tapes are those backups using so when the Monthly backup ends I can take that tape Offsite.
Thanks a lot.
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What if instead of using an incremental I choose Differential? How do I choose that option?
Thanks a lot.
From: Bill Willis <bill.willis < at > swgas.com>
To: commvault < at > yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 5:39:58 PM
Subject: Re: [commvault] Setup Daily, Weekly and Monthly jobs
Let's say a tape is marked full. Later on, data aging will mark one or more of the jobs on that tape as aged, but the tape is still marked full. It also means that this backup can still be used for restore. It's usually not a good idea to mark it appendable because tapes like to write from beginning to end, not in holes and gaps. You would either wait for all jobs to age or for enough jobs to age for you to not care about the remaining jobs and then you run a "delete content" from the tape to make it usable again.
What Kris said earlier applies here. If you use Extended retention rules and you mix incremental backups along with fulls and extended fulls on the same set of tapes, you end up with tapes that, after 30 days (for example), will only have 25% of their data left and 75% of it marked as aged (or even worse than that).
The way I get around this problem of low tape density due to aging is to make a different storage policy for my incremental backups.
You'll notice when you create a storage policy, that you can associate an "Incremental Storage Policy" to go with it.
Here's an example:
I have a storage policy called A and a storage policy called A-Incremental. I make A-Incremental the incremental storage policy to A.
I set my client C to use Storage policy A. When C does a full backup, it uses the rules from Storage Policy A. When C does an incremental backup, it knows to use Storage Policy A-Incremental.
The nice thing about using my incremental storage policies is that the incremental policy doesn't have extended retention rules. All jobs on those tapes will be aged at the same time. Your tape is either full or it's reusable.
I run it this way because I find it more convenient than using a Selective Copy on my storage policy. Each company is different though. You may need to brainstorm your configuration with others to see how things will work.
ng g1900 <ngg1900 < at > yahoo.com> 3/16/2011 4:30 PM >>>
So can I use extended retention for the Weekly and Monthly backups?
Also data aging only deletes the data for a particular job in a tape or it marks the Whole tape as appendable?
Thanks.
From: Bill Willis <bill.willis < at > swgas.com>
To: Kris <semeye < at > gmail.com>; commvault < at > yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 1:09:45 PM
Subject: Re: [commvault] Setup Daily, Weekly and Monthly jobs
This is a Your Mileage May Vary moment. I get good tape density by giving my incremental backups their own storage policy (Incremental Storage Policy) and running all of my full backups on the same day of the week. Therefore, the extended retention always applies to all of the backups on that storage policy that completed successfully on that date.
Kris <semeye < at > gmail.com> 3/16/2011 12:04 PM >>>
Extended retention is a nice and easy way to do this, however it's also the worst way to achieve good tape density. What ends up happening is you'll have a single job residing on an 800 GB LTO4 tape and that tape wont be used again until all data is aged off.
For my storage policies that require extended retention, I set up additional aux copies in the storage policy, specifically selective copies, which only copy the full backup that you specify, such as end of month or end of year, etc. I keep these aux copies in the library at all times so when next month's job fires off, it will pull the same tape. this give me all of my monthly fulls and yearly fulls on a single tape rather then using 1 tape for each extended job.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Bill Willis <bill.willis < at > swgascom ([email]bill.willis < at > swgas.com[/email])> wrote:
Also, regarding the tapes that the backup used, if you can find the backup jobs in the Job History (right click the client - > View - > Job History -> OK) you can right-click the specific jobs and select View Media.
ng g1900 <ngg1900 < at > yahoo.com ([email]ngg1900 < at > yahoo.com[/email])> 3/16/2011 11:25 AM >>>
Good Day.
I am having trouble trying to understand how to setup Daily, Weekly and Monthly Backups.
Can you help me out?
I have like 5 servers that I want to backup Daily then a Full on the Weekend and a Full the last day of the Month.
How do I know what tapes are those backups using so when the Monthly backup ends I can take that tape Offsite.
Thanks a lot.
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When you create a schedule, you can make it differential. You can choose, Full, Incremental, Differential, and Synthetic Full from a file system iDA. If you chose to use Incremental Storage Policies, a Differential counts as part of that. Incremental Storage Policies hold non-full backups.
When you do Differential backups, you will use more tape space, but sometimes it can be beneficial so that the number of tapes used in a restore process is potentially a lot less than there would be with Incremental backups.
ng g1900 <ngg1900 < at > yahoo.com> 3/17/2011 3:52 PM >>>
What if instead of using an incremental I choose Differential? How do I choose that option?
Thanks a lot.
From: Bill Willis <bill.willis < at > swgas.com>
To: commvault < at > yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 5:39:58 PM
Subject: Re: [commvault] Setup Daily, Weekly and Monthly jobs
Let's say a tape is marked full. Later on, data aging will mark one or more of the jobs on that tape as aged, but the tape is still marked full. It also means that this backup can still be used for restore. It's usually not a good idea to mark it appendable because tapes like to write from beginning to end, not in holes and gaps. You would either wait for all jobs to age or for enough jobs to age for you to not care about the remaining jobs and then you run a "delete content" from the tape to make it usable again.
What Kris said earlier applies here. If you use Extended retention rules and you mix incremental backups along with fulls and extended fulls on the same set of tapes, you end up with tapes that, after 30 days (for example), will only have 25% of their data left and 75% of it marked as aged (or even worse than that).
The way I get around this problem of low tape density due to aging is to make a different storage policy for my incremental backups.
You'll notice when you create a storage policy, that you can associate an "Incremental Storage Policy" to go with it.
Here's an example:
I have a storage policy called A and a storage policy called A-Incremental. I make A-Incremental the incremental storage policy to A.
I set my client C to use Storage policy A. When C does a full backup, it uses the rules from Storage Policy A. When C does an incremental backup, it knows to use Storage Policy A-Incremental.
The nice thing about using my incremental storage policies is that the incremental policy doesn't have extended retention rules. All jobs on those tapes will be aged at the same time. Your tape is either full or it's reusable.
I run it this way because I find it more convenient than using a Selective Copy on my storage policy. Each company is different though. You may need to brainstorm your configuration with others to see how things will work.
ng g1900 <ngg1900 < at > yahoo.com> 3/16/2011 4:30 PM >>>
So can I use extended retention for the Weekly and Monthly backups?
Also data aging only deletes the data for a particular job in a tape or it marks the Whole tape as appendable?
Thanks.
From: Bill Willis <bill.willis < at > swgas.com>
To: Kris <semeye < at > gmail.com>; commvault < at > yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 1:09:45 PM
Subject: Re: [commvault] Setup Daily, Weekly and Monthly jobs
This is a Your Mileage May Vary moment. I get good tape density by giving my incremental backups their own storage policy (Incremental Storage Policy) and running all of my full backups on the same day of the week. Therefore, the extended retention always applies to all of the backups on that storage policy that completed successfully on that date.
Kris <semeye < at > gmail.com> 3/16/2011 12:04 PM >>>
Extended retention is a nice and easy way to do this, however it's also the worst way to achieve good tape density. What ends up happening is you'll have a single job residing on an 800 GB LTO4 tape and that tape wont be used again until all data is aged off.
For my storage policies that require extended retention, I set up additional aux copies in the storage policy, specifically selective copies, which only copy the full backup that you specify, such as end of month or end of year, etc. I keep these aux copies in the library at all times so when next month's job fires off, it will pull the same tape. this give me all of my monthly fulls and yearly fulls on a single tape rather then using 1 tape for each extended job.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Bill Willis <bill.willis < at > swgascom ([email]bill.willis < at > swgas.com[/email])> wrote:
Also, regarding the tapes that the backup used, if you can find the backup jobs in the Job History (right click the client - > View - > Job History -> OK) you can right-click the specific jobs and select View Media.
ng g1900 <ngg1900 < at > yahoo.com ([email]ngg1900 < at > yahoo.com[/email])> 3/16/2011 11:25 AM >>>
Good Day.
I am having trouble trying to understand how to setup Daily, Weekly and Monthly Backups.
Can you help me out?
I have like 5 servers that I want to backup Daily then a Full on the Weekend and a Full the last day of the Month.
How do I know what tapes are those backups using so when the Monthly backup ends I can take that tape Offsite.
Thanks a lot.
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