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Customer with SIDB2 running. Looks like SIDB, of its own volition, has created a new store. Yes, create new store at 5TB is selected, but the volume itself isn't even 5TB capacity. Creation of a new store has caused space issue on maglib. Any idea what circumstances might cause a new SIDB Store to be created, other than manually sealing (which I don't believe happened)?


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Post SIDB created new store 
By manually sealing do you mean rebooting the media agent without stopping all Commvault services and waiting for SIDB to exit from the process list? This has happened to me before which corrupts/seals the dedupe database. I have a shutdown script I added to prevent this from happening again let me know if you want it.


Andy




On Dec 12, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Mark Edwards <mark.p.edwards < at > gmail.com ([email]mark.p.edwards < at > gmail.com[/email])> wrote:




Customer with SIDB2 running. Looks like SIDB, of its own volition, has created a new store. Yes, create new store at 5TB is selected, but the volume itself isn't even 5TB capacity. Creation of a new store has caused space issue on maglib. Any idea what circumstances might cause a new SIDB Store to be created, other than manually sealing (which I don't believe happened)?


m
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Mark P. Edwards







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Post SIDB created new store 
By "manually sealing", I mean right-clicking on the storage policy copy and selecting "Seal Deduplication Store".

There is another word for rebooting the media agent without stopping the commvault Services correctly, but it isn't for polite company! Wink


Thanks for the reminder though - I know when the new store was created so now I can go check to see if someone rebooted the media agent for me around the time when the new store was created.


mark

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:39, Andrew Edwards <drewedwards21 < at > yahoo.com ([email]drewedwards21 < at > yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
 
By manually sealing do you mean rebooting the media agent without stopping all Commvault services and waiting for SIDB to exit from the process list? This has happened to me before which corrupts/seals the dedupe database. I have a shutdown script I added to prevent this from happening again let me know if you want it.


Andy





On Dec 12, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Mark Edwards <mark.p.edwards < at > gmail.com ([email]mark.p.edwards < at > gmail.com[/email])> wrote:



 
Customer with SIDB2 running. Looks like SIDB, of its own volition, has created a new store. Yes, create new store at 5TB is selected, but the volume itself isn't even 5TB capacity. Creation of a new store has caused space issue on maglib. Any idea what circumstances might cause a new SIDB Store to be created, other than manually sealing (which I don't believe happened)?


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Post SIDB created new store 
Hi Andy - would love a copy of that script if you don't mind. Looks like someone did reboot the server - so this is obviously what has happened here.

cheers,


mark.

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:49, Mark Edwards <mark.p.edwards < at > gmail.com ([email]mark.p.edwards < at > gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
By "manually sealing", I mean right-clicking on the storage policy copy and selecting "Seal Deduplication Store".

There is another word for rebooting the media agent without stopping the commvault Services correctly, but it isn't for polite company! Wink


Thanks for the reminder though - I know when the new store was created so now I can go check to see if someone rebooted the media agent for me around the time when the new store was created.


mark


On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:39, Andrew Edwards <drewedwards21 < at > yahoo.com ([email]drewedwards21 < at > yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
 
By manually sealing do you mean rebooting the media agent without stopping all Commvault services and waiting for SIDB to exit from the process list? This has happened to me before which corrupts/seals the dedupe database. I have a shutdown script I added to prevent this from happening again let me know if you want it.


Andy





On Dec 12, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Mark Edwards <mark.p.edwards < at > gmail.com ([email]mark.p.edwards < at > gmail.com[/email])> wrote:



 
Customer with SIDB2 running. Looks like SIDB, of its own volition, has created a new store. Yes, create new store at 5TB is selected, but the volume itself isn't even 5TB capacity. Creation of a new store has caused space issue on maglib. Any idea what circumstances might cause a new SIDB Store to be created, other than manually sealing (which I don't believe happened)?


m
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Mark P. Edwards



















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Post SIDB created new store 
ROFL... this is exactly the issue - I have been digging in the event logs and lo and behold - windows updates were being done at the time! Thanks mate - much appreciated.


m

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:08, Andrew Edwards <drewedwards21 < at > yahoo.com ([email]drewedwards21 < at > yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
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Sure thing I have attached it as a .txt file (I didn't ask but hopefully your media agent is a Windows server). Change it to .vbs and add it to the local windows policy as a shutdown script. I almost came to blows with the tech that manages the windows updates because he kept automatically rebooting the media agent so this has solved the problem..


Have a great week,
Andy

From: Mark Edwards <mark.p.edwards < at > gmail.com ([email]mark.p.edwards < at > gmail.com[/email])>
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Subject: Re: [commvault] SIDB created new store

 
Hi Andy - would love a copy of that script if you don't mind. Looks like someone did reboot the server - so this is obviously what has happened here.

cheers,


mark.

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:49, Mark Edwards <mark.p.edwards < at > gmail.com ([email]mark.p.edwards < at > gmail.com[/email])> wrote:
By "manually sealing", I mean right-clicking on the storage policy copy and selecting "Seal Deduplication Store".

There is another word for rebooting the media agent without stopping the commvault Services correctly, but it isn't for polite company! Wink


Thanks for the reminder though - I know when the new store was created so now I can go check to see if someone rebooted the media agent for me around the time when the new store was created.


mark


On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:39, Andrew Edwards <drewedwards21 < at > yahoo.com ([email]drewedwards21 < at > yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
 
By manually sealing do you mean rebooting the media agent without stopping all Commvault services and waiting for SIDB to exit from the process list? This has happened to me before which corrupts/seals the dedupe database. I have a shutdown script I added to prevent this from happening again let me know if you want it.


Andy





On Dec 12, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Mark Edwards <mark.p.edwards < at > gmail.com ([email]mark.p.edwards < at > gmail.com[/email])> wrote:



 
Customer with SIDB2 running. Looks like SIDB, of its own volition, has created a new store. Yes, create new store at 5TB is selected, but the volume itself isn't even 5TB capacity. Creation of a new store has caused space issue on maglib. Any idea what circumstances might cause a new SIDB Store to be created, other than manually sealing (which I don't believe happened)?


m
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Post SIDB created new store 
Hi -

This script is actually great because this issue has happened to us in the past. Thanks for sharing.

Anyway, we have 4 MAs but the dedupe DB is running on another server. Where do we apply this shutdown script? When I check the processes on our 4 MAs, I don't see anything running as sidb or sidb2. The sidb2.exe process is running on the server where the dedupe DB is hosted.

Please advise.

Thanks

--- In commvault < at > yahoogroups.com ([email]commvault%40yahoogroups.com[/email]), Mark Edwards <mark.p.edwards < at > ...> wrote:

ROFL... this is exactly the issue - I have been digging in the event logs
and lo and behold - windows updates were being done at the time!
Thanks mate - much appreciated.

m

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:08, Andrew Edwards <drewedwards21 < at > ...>wrote:


[Attachment(s) <#12cdd45f4678ade5_TopText> from Andrew Edwards included
below]

Sure thing I have attached it as a .txt file (I didn't ask but hopefully
your media agent is a Windows server). Change it to .vbs and add it to the
local windows policy as a shutdown script. I almost came to blows with the
tech that manages the windows updates because he kept automatically
rebooting the media agent so this has solved the problem..

Have a great week,
Andy

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*To:* commvault < at > yahoogroups.com ([email]commvault%40yahoogroups.com[/email])
*Sent:* Sun, December 12, 2010 7:55:26 PM
*Subject:* Re: [commvault] SIDB created new store



Hi Andy - would love a copy of that script if you don't mind. Looks like
someone did reboot the server - so this is obviously what has happened here.

cheers,

mark.

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:49, Mark Edwards <mark.p.edwards < at > ...>wrote:

By "manually sealing", I mean right-clicking on the storage policy copy
and selecting "Seal Deduplication Store".

There is another word for rebooting the media agent without stopping the
commvault Services correctly, but it isn't for polite company! Wink

Thanks for the reminder though - I know when the new store was created so
now I can go check to see if someone rebooted the media agent for me around
the time when the new store was created.

mark

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:39, Andrew Edwards <drewedwards21 < at > ...>wrote:



By manually sealing do you mean rebooting the media agent without
stopping all Commvault services and waiting for SIDB to exit from the
process list? This has happened to me before which corrupts/seals the dedupe
database. I have a shutdown script I added to prevent this from happening
again let me know if you want it.

Andy



On Dec 12, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Mark Edwards <mark.p.edwards < at > ...>
wrote:



Customer with SIDB2 running. Looks like SIDB, of its own volition, has
created a new store. Yes, create new store at 5TB is selected, but the
volume itself isn't even 5TB capacity. Creation of a new store has caused
space issue on maglib.
Any idea what circumstances might cause a new SIDB Store to be created,
other than manually sealing (which I don't believe happened)?

m

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Post SIDB created new store 
you'll only need it on the DDB manager

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 6:03 AM, rickyv87 <rickyv87 < at > yahoo.com ([email]rickyv87 < at > yahoo.com[/email])> wrote:
 
Hi -

This script is actually great because this issue has happened to us in the past. Thanks for sharing.

Anyway, we have 4 MAs but the dedupe DB is running on another server. Where do we apply this shutdown script? When I check the processes on our 4 MAs, I don't see anything running as sidb or sidb2. The sidb2.exe process is running on the server where the dedupe DB is hosted.

Please advise.

Thanks

--- In commvault < at > yahoogroups.com ([email]commvault%40yahoogroups.com[/email]), Mark Edwards <mark.p.edwards < at > ...> wrote:

ROFL... this is exactly the issue - I have been digging in the event logs
and lo and behold - windows updates were being done at the time!
Thanks mate - much appreciated.

m


On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:08, Andrew Edwards <drewedwards21 < at > ...>wrote:


[Attachment(s) <#12cdd45f4678ade5_TopText> from Andrew Edwards included
below]

Sure thing I have attached it as a .txt file (I didn't ask but hopefully
your media agent is a Windows server). Change it to .vbs and add it to the
local windows policy as a shutdown script. I almost came to blows with the
tech that manages the windows updates because he kept automatically
rebooting the media agent so this has solved the problem..

Have a great week,
Andy

------------------------------

*From:* Mark Edwards <mark.p.edwards < at > ...>
*To:* commvault < at > yahoogroups.com ([email]commvault%40yahoogroups.com[/email])
*Sent:* Sun, December 12, 2010 7:55:26 PM
*Subject:* Re: [commvault] SIDB created new store



Hi Andy - would love a copy of that script if you don't mind. Looks like
someone did reboot the server - so this is obviously what has happened here.

cheers,

mark.


On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:49, Mark Edwards <mark.p.edwards < at > ...>wrote:

By "manually sealing", I mean right-clicking on the storage policy copy
and selecting "Seal Deduplication Store".

There is another word for rebooting the media agent without stopping the
commvault Services correctly, but it isn't for polite company! Wink

Thanks for the reminder though - I know when the new store was created so
now I can go check to see if someone rebooted the media agent for me around
the time when the new store was created.

mark


On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:39, Andrew Edwards <drewedwards21 < at > ...>wrote:



By manually sealing do you mean rebooting the media agent without
stopping all Commvault services and waiting for SIDB to exit from the
process list? This has happened to me before which corrupts/seals the dedupe
database. I have a shutdown script I added to prevent this from happening
again let me know if you want it.

Andy




On Dec 12, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Mark Edwards <mark.p.edwards < at > ...>
wrote:



Customer with SIDB2 running. Looks like SIDB, of its own volition, has
created a new store. Yes, create new store at 5TB is selected, but the
volume itself isn't even 5TB capacity. Creation of a new store has caused
space issue on maglib.
Any idea what circumstances might cause a new SIDB Store to be created,
other than manually sealing (which I don't believe happened)?

m

--
regards,

Mark P. Edwards





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Andy,

Would also much appreciate the script.

Many thanks in advance.

TC

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