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Hello,

We have a bad tape that contains 150 'good' savesets, we can read them. =
As
the tape is bad, there are write problems with it, we would like to copy =
the
'good' savesets to another different tape (in the same pool).

How can we do this? We've searched the documentation but the only =
similar
concept was 'cloning' but this is not the thing we're looking for =
because
the target tape needs to be in a clone pool, not in an storage pool.

Any idea?

Thank you very much!


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On Wednesday 15 December 2004 18:13, Manel Rodero wrote:
Hello,

We have a bad tape that contains 150 'good' savesets, we can read them. As
the tape is bad, there are write problems with it, we would like to copy
the 'good' savesets to another different tape (in the same pool).

How can we do this? We've searched the documentation but the only similar
concept was 'cloning' but this is not the thing we're looking for because
the target tape needs to be in a clone pool, not in an storage pool.

Any idea?

Thank you very much!

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We have a bad tape that contains 150 'good' savesets, we can read them. As
the tape is bad, there are write problems with it, we would like to copy the
'good' savesets to another different tape (in the same pool).

How can we do this? We've searched the documentation but the only similar
concept was 'cloning' but this is not the thing we're looking for because
the target tape needs to be in a clone pool, not in an storage pool.

I don't know any way to copy the data onto another backup pool tape.


Darren Dunham ddunham < at > taos.com
Senior Technical Consultant TAOS http://www.taos.com/
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by the way look at nsrstage

that does not have this limitation of clone pool

maarten


On Wednesday 15 December 2004 18:13, Manel Rodero wrote:
Hello,

We have a bad tape that contains 150 'good' savesets, we can read them. As
the tape is bad, there are write problems with it, we would like to copy
the 'good' savesets to another different tape (in the same pool).

How can we do this? We've searched the documentation but the only similar
concept was 'cloning' but this is not the thing we're looking for because
the target tape needs to be in a clone pool, not in an storage pool.

Any idea?

Thank you very much!

--

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o o o Helpdesk Manager | Campus Nord - Modul B6
o o o Laboratori de Calcul | Jordi Girona, 1-3
U P C Facultat Informatica Barcelona | 08034 Barcelona (Spain)

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by the way look at nsrstage

that does not have this limitation of clone pool

Good point. I don't use nsrstage currently. I thought that it needed
to be set up in a particular location first (like a stage disk).
Looking over it I see that might be pretty easy to use in isolation.

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Senior Technical Consultant TAOS http://www.taos.com/
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I've used it, and unfortunately it starts with a clone operation so
you'll need to send it to a clone pool. Not a big issue with me, I
keep a couple pools hanging around that I can reassign between backup
and clone pool type so things like this can be done.

It is perfectly possible to stage to a backup pool, I do this daily when
moving data from disk device to tape. I backup to disk, clone to tape
for offsite storage and then stage to tape after 7 days. Works without
problems.

Regards
Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Legato NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER < at > LISTMAIL.TEMPLE.EDU]
On Behalf Of T. S. Kimball
Sent: 16 December 2004 12:09
To: NETWORKER < at > LISTMAIL.TEMPLE.EDU
Subject: Re: [Networker] How to copy the savesets from a tape to a
different tape?


I've used it, and unfortunately it starts with a clone operation so
you'll need to send it to a clone pool. Not a big issue with me, I keep
a couple pools hanging around that I can reassign between backup and
clone pool type so things like this can be done.

Hello,

I've tried the 'nsrstage' command successfully with one saveset of the bad
tape (I've used the GUI to see an SSID of the saveset and execute the
command with this number).

C:\>nsrstage -m -v -b "Normal Pool" -S 767438583
Obtaining media database information on server legato_server
Parsing save set id(s)
Migrating the following save sets (ids):
767438583
Automatically copying save sets(s) to other volume(s)

Starting migration operation...
nsrstage: Successfully cloned only the complete savesets
nsrstage: Clones were written to the following volume(s):
LNR128
Deleting save set 767438583 clone 1103127124 from the media data
base.
nsrstage: Space can only be recovered from adv_file and file type
devices.

After this, I've used 'mminfo' to obtain all the savesets in the bad tape
with this command:

C:\>mminfo -v -q"volume=LCL103" -r"ssid" > savesets.txt

And executed 'nsrstage' using this file as input for SSID numbers:

C:\>nsrstage -m -v -b "Normal Pool" -f savesets.txt -S
Obtaining media database information on server legato_server
Parsing save set id(s)
Migrating the following save sets (ids):
3703451985
3737006378
1690184883
62795685
[...]
2143169544
2344496109
2092837927
Automatically copying save sets(s) to other volume(s)

Starting migration operation...
nsrstage: error, cannot clone an incomplete original
nsrstage: Cannot open nsrstage session with legato_server
nsrstage: Failed to clone any save sets

But I've got an error with incomplete savesets. So the question is: how can
I get a list of ONLY complete savesets in the bad tape to use it as input
for nsrstage command?

Thank you!

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[mailto:NETWORKER < at > LISTMAIL.TEMPLE.EDU] On Behalf Of Darren Dunham
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 7:15 PM
To: NETWORKER < at > LISTMAIL.TEMPLE.EDU
Subject: Re: [Networker] How to copy the savesets from a tape
to a different tape?



by the way look at nsrstage

that does not have this limitation of clone pool

Good point. I don't use nsrstage currently. I thought that it needed
to be set up in a particular location first (like a stage disk).
Looking over it I see that might be pretty easy to use in isolation.

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Note:

Cloning and Cloning is not the same.

Cloning in nsrclone is 'real cloning' and MUST have a clone pool as target
Cloning in nsrstage is 'not real cloning' and CAN have a clone pool as target
but also a backup pool as target.

By the way thanks to a mail from Davina some time ago.

maarten

On Thursday 16 December 2004 13:27, Wood, R A (Bob) wrote:
It is perfectly possible to stage to a backup pool, I do this daily when
moving data from disk device to tape. I backup to disk, clone to tape
for offsite storage and then stage to tape after 7 days. Works without
problems.

Regards
Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Legato NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER < at > LISTMAIL.TEMPLE.EDU]
On Behalf Of T. S. Kimball
Sent: 16 December 2004 12:09
To: NETWORKER < at > LISTMAIL.TEMPLE.EDU
Subject: Re: [Networker] How to copy the savesets from a tape to a
different tape?


I've used it, and unfortunately it starts with a clone operation so
you'll need to send it to a clone pool. Not a big issue with me, I keep
a couple pools hanging around that I can reassign between backup and
clone pool type so things like this can be done.

From the manpage:

DESCRIPTION
The nsrstage program is used to migrate existing save sets
on a manual basis. Migration is the process of moving one
or more save sets between volumes. The process begins with
a clone of the specific save sets to the new volume speci-
fied, followed by the deletion of cloned save set entries
from the media database (see the -S description). Finally,
the possible removal of the save sets from the original
source volumes. The second and the third operations are
triggered by the successful completion of the previous
operation. The data is moved to new media volumes, making
room for new data on the original volumes.


--TSK

On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Darren Dunham wrote:
by the way look at nsrstage

that does not have this limitation of clone pool

Good point. I don't use nsrstage currently. I thought that it needed

to be set up in a particular location first (like a stage disk).
Looking over it I see that might be pretty easy to use in isolation.

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ddunham < at > taos.com

Senior Technical Consultant TAOS

http://www.taos.com/

Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco, CA bay

area

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use mminfo -q'!incomplete,!ssrecycle,........

On Thursday 16 December 2004 13:50, Manel Rodero wrote:
Hello,

I've tried the 'nsrstage' command successfully with one saveset of the bad
tape (I've used the GUI to see an SSID of the saveset and execute the
command with this number).

C:\>nsrstage -m -v -b "Normal Pool" -S 767438583
Obtaining media database information on server legato_server
Parsing save set id(s)
Migrating the following save sets (ids):
767438583
Automatically copying save sets(s) to other volume(s)

Starting migration operation...
nsrstage: Successfully cloned only the complete savesets
nsrstage: Clones were written to the following volume(s):
LNR128
Deleting save set 767438583 clone 1103127124 from the media data
base.
nsrstage: Space can only be recovered from adv_file and file type
devices.

After this, I've used 'mminfo' to obtain all the savesets in the bad tape
with this command:

C:\>mminfo -v -q"volume=LCL103" -r"ssid" > savesets.txt

And executed 'nsrstage' using this file as input for SSID numbers:

C:\>nsrstage -m -v -b "Normal Pool" -f savesets.txt -S
Obtaining media database information on server legato_server
Parsing save set id(s)
Migrating the following save sets (ids):
3703451985
3737006378
1690184883
62795685
[...]
2143169544
2344496109
2092837927
Automatically copying save sets(s) to other volume(s)

Starting migration operation...
nsrstage: error, cannot clone an incomplete original
nsrstage: Cannot open nsrstage session with legato_server
nsrstage: Failed to clone any save sets

But I've got an error with incomplete savesets. So the question is: how can
I get a list of ONLY complete savesets in the bad tape to use it as input
for nsrstage command?

Thank you!

-----Original Message-----
From: Legato NetWorker discussion
[mailto:NETWORKER < at > LISTMAIL.TEMPLE.EDU] On Behalf Of Darren Dunham
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 7:15 PM
To: NETWORKER < at > LISTMAIL.TEMPLE.EDU
Subject: Re: [Networker] How to copy the savesets from a tape
to a different tape?

by the way look at nsrstage

that does not have this limitation of clone pool

Good point. I don't use nsrstage currently. I thought that it needed
to be set up in a particular location first (like a stage disk).
Looking over it I see that might be pretty easy to use in isolation.

--
Darren Dunham
ddunham < at > taos.com
Senior Technical Consultant TAOS
http://www.taos.com/
Got some Dr Pepper? San Francisco,
CA bay area
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