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On my TSM v5.5 server I have various clients that generate messages which
end up in the server activity log. Depending on whether these messages
have a prefix of ANE or ANS, the severity field either is or isn't
populated.

So a SELECT on the ACTLOG table shows that a message starting ANE4941I has
a severity of 'I' whereas a message starting with ANE4007E has a severity
of 'E'. This all works fine and any reporting (either using standard IBM
functionality or bespoke) can filter out the messages of no concern based
on severity.

The problem then comes with messages prefixed by ANS. A similar SELECT on
the ACTLOG table shows that messages beginning ANS4083I, ANS4251W and
ANS4150E all have a null severity. Since I am only concerning myself with
messages of severity 'W' and 'E' there are problems which are not being
flagged up. Even if I were able to expand this to include null severity
messages (and this is not the case using standard functionality in OR) I
would then have the problem of being alerted to messages that are of no
concern.

I logged a PMR to be told that this is working as designed, but I can
think of no logical explanation why the severity of ANE messages should be
based on the 8th character of the message, but the severity of ANS
messages is always null. Before I go down the route of raising a DCR, can
anybody think of a reason why the current implementation is the best
design choice?

Regard
Neil Schofield
Technical Leader
Yorkshire Water

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Post Different treatment of ANS and ANE messages in the server ac 
Neil -

My question would be: What are ANS messages doing in the server Activity Log?
From everything I know, client-initiated messages conveyed to the TSM server should be logged in the Activity Log as ANE messages, where they can be distributed to event logging receivers. I can't recall ever seeing any ANS messages in the Activity Log. This may be the result of a software error, if it is occurring.

If ANS messages are appearing in the server Activity Log, I can see how they would be disregarded in severity level interpretation as being foreign matter.

Richard Sims

Post Different treatment of ANS and ANE messages in the server ac 
Richard

It's an interesting point you make. In our (predominantly Windows)
environment, lots of ANS messages are showing up in the activity log. We
see the following on a fairly regular basis:

B/A client messages:
ANS4251W: System Writer's file 'filename': not found.
ANS4083I: New node password has been generated.

TSM for VE messages:
ANS4148E: Full VM backup of Virtual Machine 'vmname' failed with RC rc
ANS4150E: Incremental backup of Virtual Machine 'vmname' failed with RC rc
ANS4151E: Failure mounting Virtual Machine 'vmname'. RC=rc

IBM seem to have blurred the distinction between ANS and ANE messages
somewhat. For an example compare the following which are both logged in the
server activity log:
ANE4147I: Successful Full VM backup of Virtual Machine 'vmname'
ANS4148E: Full VM backup of Virtual Machine 'vmname' failed with RC rc

I don't understand why one should have an ANE prefix and the other is an
ANS. Following my post yesterday, IBM are taking a keener interest in my
PMR so I'll perhaps address the question to them.

Regards
Neil


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Post Different treatment of ANS and ANE messages in the server ac 
The ANS message appears in the activity log if the corresponding ANE
message does not exist in the server's message catalog. This can occur if
your TSM client is newer, and issues messages that do not exist in the
older server's message catalog.

Best regards,

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
Level 3 Team Lead
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Hartford/IBM < at > IBMUS
Internet e-mail: storman < at > us.ibm.com

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"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L < at > vm.marist.edu> wrote on 2012-05-31
05:18:48:

From: Neil Schofield <neil.schofield < at > YORKSHIREWATER.CO.UK>
To: ADSM-L < at > vm.marist.edu,
Date: 2012-05-31 05:22
Subject: Re: Different treatment of ANS and ANE messages in the
server activity log
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L < at > vm.marist.edu>

Richard

It's an interesting point you make. In our (predominantly Windows)
environment, lots of ANS messages are showing up in the activity log. We
see the following on a fairly regular basis:

B/A client messages:
ANS4251W: System Writer's file 'filename': not found.
ANS4083I: New node password has been generated.

TSM for VE messages:
ANS4148E: Full VM backup of Virtual Machine 'vmname' failed with RC rc
ANS4150E: Incremental backup of Virtual Machine 'vmname' failed with RC
rc
ANS4151E: Failure mounting Virtual Machine 'vmname'. RC=rc

IBM seem to have blurred the distinction between ANS and ANE messages
somewhat. For an example compare the following which are both logged in
the
server activity log:
ANE4147I: Successful Full VM backup of Virtual Machine 'vmname'
ANS4148E: Full VM backup of Virtual Machine 'vmname' failed with RC rc

I don't understand why one should have an ANE prefix and the other is an
ANS. Following my post yesterday, IBM are taking a keener interest in my
PMR so I'll perhaps address the question to them.

Regards
Neil


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legally privileged. The contents are intended for recipient only and
are subject to the legal notice available at http://
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Registered Office Western House, Halifax Road, Bradford, BD6 2SZ
Registered in England and Wales No 2366682
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Post Different treatment of ANS and ANE messages in the server ac 
Hello,
having ANS messages in the server activity log is actually
a known defect with TSM servers (versions 5.5, 6.1 and 6.2).
See here for the description and fix levels.

http://www-304.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1IC76265

Rejean Larivee
IBM Tivoli Storage Manager Software Support


"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L < at > vm.marist.edu> wrote on 05/30/2012
11:01:14 AM:

From: Richard Sims <rbs < at > BU.EDU>
To: ADSM-L < at > vm.marist.edu
Date: 05/30/2012 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: Different treatment of ANS and ANE messages in the
server activity log
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L < at > vm.marist.edu>

Neil -

My question would be: What are ANS messages doing in the server Activity
Log?
From everything I know, client-initiated messages conveyed to the
TSM server should be logged in the Activity Log as ANE messages,
where they can be distributed to event logging receivers. I can't
recall ever seeing any ANS messages in the Activity Log. This may
be the result of a software error, if it is occurring.

If ANS messages are appearing in the server Activity Log, I can see
how they would be disregarded in severity level interpretation as
being foreign matter.

Richard Sims


Post Different treatment of ANS and ANE messages in the server ac 
Thanks Andy - that does make sense. I'm running a relatively old server
version and the ANS messages I'm seeing there are more recently
introduced.

Regards
Neil


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Post Different treatment of ANS and ANE messages in the server ac 
Rejean, thanks for pointing this APAR out. Indeed it does appear to provide
generic ANS --> ANE conversion for newer messages that are not in an older
server's catalog (but the resulting ANE message is in the language of the
client, not in the language of the server).

Best regards,

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
Level 3 Team Lead
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Hartford/IBM < at > IBMUS
Internet e-mail: storman < at > us.ibm.com

IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
http://www.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/Overview/Software/Tivoli/Tivoli_Storage_Manager

"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L < at > vm.marist.edu> wrote on 2012-05-31
08:18:27:

From: Rejean Larivee <rlarivee < at > CA.IBM.COM>
To: ADSM-L < at > vm.marist.edu,
Date: 2012-05-31 08:22
Subject: Re: Different treatment of ANS and ANE messages in the
server activity log
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L < at > vm.marist.edu>

Hello,
having ANS messages in the server activity log is actually
a known defect with TSM servers (versions 5.5, 6.1 and 6.2).
See here for the description and fix levels.

http://www-304.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1IC76265

Rejean Larivee
IBM Tivoli Storage Manager Software Support


"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L < at > vm.marist.edu> wrote on 05/30/2012
11:01:14 AM:

From: Richard Sims <rbs < at > BU.EDU>
To: ADSM-L < at > vm.marist.edu
Date: 05/30/2012 11:17 AM
Subject: Re: Different treatment of ANS and ANE messages in the
server activity log
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L < at > vm.marist.edu>

Neil -

My question would be: What are ANS messages doing in the server
Activity
Log?
From everything I know, client-initiated messages conveyed to the
TSM server should be logged in the Activity Log as ANE messages,
where they can be distributed to event logging receivers. I can't
recall ever seeing any ANS messages in the Activity Log. This may
be the result of a software error, if it is occurring.

If ANS messages are appearing in the server Activity Log, I can see
how they would be disregarded in severity level interpretation as
being foreign matter.

Richard Sims

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