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So, I've got an offsite machine which exists to accept remote virtual
volumes. For years, now, the filling volumes have behaved in a way I
thought I understood.

The tapes are collocated by node. There are about 20 server nodes which
write to it.

My number of filling volumes has rattled around 50-60 for years; I
interpret this as basic node collocation, plus occasional additional
tapes allocated when more streams than tapes are writing at a time. So
some of the servers have just one filling tape, some have two, and the
busiest of them might have as many as 6 (my drive count).

Add a little error for occasionally reclaiming a still-filling volume,
and that gives me a very clear sense of what's going on, and I can just
monitor scratch count.

Right now, I have 190 filling volumes.

None of them has data from more than one client.

I have some volumes RO and filling, and am looking into that, but it's
20 of them, not enough to account for this backlog. Those are also the
only vols in error state.

I've been rooting through my actlogs looking for warnings or errors, but
I've never had occasion to introspect about how TSM picks which tape to
call for, when it's going to write. It's always Just Worked.


Does this ring any bells for anyone? Any dumb questions I've
forgotten to ask? I don't hold much hope for getting a good experience
out of IBM support on this.


- Allen S.Rout

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Check out the "Filling" item:
http://people.bu.edu/rbs/ADSM.QuickFacts

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So, I've got an offsite machine which exists to accept remote virtual
volumes. For years, now, the filling volumes have behaved in a way I
thought I understood.

The tapes are collocated by node. There are about 20 server nodes which
write to it.

My number of filling volumes has rattled around 50-60 for years; I
interpret this as basic node collocation, plus occasional additional
tapes allocated when more streams than tapes are writing at a time. So
some of the servers have just one filling tape, some have two, and the
busiest of them might have as many as 6 (my drive count).

Add a little error for occasionally reclaiming a still-filling volume,
and that gives me a very clear sense of what's going on, and I can just
monitor scratch count.

Right now, I have 190 filling volumes.

None of them has data from more than one client.

I have some volumes RO and filling, and am looking into that, but it's
20 of them, not enough to account for this backlog. Those are also the
only vols in error state.

I've been rooting through my actlogs looking for warnings or errors, but
I've never had occasion to introspect about how TSM picks which tape to
call for, when it's going to write. It's always Just Worked.


Does this ring any bells for anyone? Any dumb questions I've
forgotten to ask? I don't hold much hope for getting a good experience
out of IBM support on this.


- Allen S.Rout



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Post Excessive number of filling tapes... 
Re your line " None of them has data from more than one client"

Has collocation been turned on by accident?

Thanks & Regards
Paul
 
 


So, I've got an offsite machine which exists to accept remote virtual
volumes. For years, now, the filling volumes have behaved in a way I
thought I understood.

The tapes are collocated by node. There are about 20 server nodes which
write to it.

My number of filling volumes has rattled around 50-60 for years; I
interpret this as basic node collocation, plus occasional additional
tapes allocated when more streams than tapes are writing at a time. So
some of the servers have just one filling tape, some have two, and the
busiest of them might have as many as 6 (my drive count).

Add a little error for occasionally reclaiming a still-filling volume,
and that gives me a very clear sense of what's going on, and I can just
monitor scratch count.

Right now, I have 190 filling volumes.

None of them has data from more than one client.

I have some volumes RO and filling, and am looking into that, but it's
20 of them, not enough to account for this backlog. Those are also the
only vols in error state.

I've been rooting through my actlogs looking for warnings or errors, but
I've never had occasion to introspect about how TSM picks which tape to
call for, when it's going to write. It's always Just Worked.


Does this ring any bells for anyone? Any dumb questions I've
forgotten to ask? I don't hold much hope for getting a good experience
out of IBM support on this.


- Allen S.Rout






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Post Excessive number of filling tapes... 
Allen,

We opened a PMR that sounds like it might match your observations. We have way too many volumes in what I call "barely filling" status, with no explanation of how they got that way. APAR IC76192 was opened for this:
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=swg1IC76192

..Paul

At 04:17 PM 2/6/2012, Allen S. Rout wrote:
So, I've got an offsite machine which exists to accept remote virtual
volumes. For years, now, the filling volumes have behaved in a way I
thought I understood.

The tapes are collocated by node. There are about 20 server nodes which
write to it.

My number of filling volumes has rattled around 50-60 for years; I
interpret this as basic node collocation, plus occasional additional
tapes allocated when more streams than tapes are writing at a time. So
some of the servers have just one filling tape, some have two, and the
busiest of them might have as many as 6 (my drive count).

Add a little error for occasionally reclaiming a still-filling volume,
and that gives me a very clear sense of what's going on, and I can just
monitor scratch count.

Right now, I have 190 filling volumes.

None of them has data from more than one client.

I have some volumes RO and filling, and am looking into that, but it's
20 of them, not enough to account for this backlog. Those are also the
only vols in error state.

I've been rooting through my actlogs looking for warnings or errors, but
I've never had occasion to introspect about how TSM picks which tape to
call for, when it's going to write. It's always Just Worked.


Does this ring any bells for anyone? Any dumb questions I've
forgotten to ask? I don't hold much hope for getting a good experience
out of IBM support on this.


- Allen S.Rout


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Post Excessive number of filling tapes... 
On 02/06/2012 05:33 PM, Paul_Dudley wrote:
Re your line " None of them has data from more than one client"

Has collocation been turned on by accident?


No, it has

The tapes are collocated by node. There are about 20 server nodes which
write to it.

been turned on by design.

- Allen S. Rout

Post Excessive number of filling tapes... 
I call them "stuck filling tapes", and have a script that runs every day
that keeps them under control. Any filling tape that hasn't been written
to in 6 days gets a movedata run on it. Also, it also occurs on file pool
volumes. We're on tsm server v5.5.2, and v5.5.5 on our dedicated library
managers.


Below is the select I use to fine them.

sftdays=6

dsmadmc -se=$i \
-id=$adminid \
-password=$adminpwd \
-dataonly=yes \
-tab \
"select '${i}', \
volume_name, \
stgpool_name, \
status, \
DEVCLASS_NAME, \
access, \
last_write_date, \
cast((current_timestamp - last_write_date)days as decimal(6,0)),
\
est_capacity_mb, \
pct_utilized, \
cast((est_capacity_mb * pct_utilized / 100) as decimal(8,1)), \
pct_reclaim \
from volumes \
where status = 'FILLING' \
and access != 'UNAVAILABLE' \
and stgpool_name not like '%ARCH%' \
and cast((current_timestamp - last_write_date)days as
decimal(6,0)) \> $sftdays \
order by volume_name"






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Date: 02/06/2012 04:20 PM
Subject: Excessive number of filling tapes...
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So, I've got an offsite machine which exists to accept remote virtual
volumes. For years, now, the filling volumes have behaved in a way I
thought I understood.

The tapes are collocated by node. There are about 20 server nodes which
write to it.

My number of filling volumes has rattled around 50-60 for years; I
interpret this as basic node collocation, plus occasional additional
tapes allocated when more streams than tapes are writing at a time. So
some of the servers have just one filling tape, some have two, and the
busiest of them might have as many as 6 (my drive count).

Add a little error for occasionally reclaiming a still-filling volume,
and that gives me a very clear sense of what's going on, and I can just
monitor scratch count.

Right now, I have 190 filling volumes.

None of them has data from more than one client.

I have some volumes RO and filling, and am looking into that, but it's
20 of them, not enough to account for this backlog. Those are also the
only vols in error state.

I've been rooting through my actlogs looking for warnings or errors, but
I've never had occasion to introspect about how TSM picks which tape to
call for, when it's going to write. It's always Just Worked.


Does this ring any bells for anyone? Any dumb questions I've
forgotten to ask? I don't hold much hope for getting a good experience
out of IBM support on this.


- Allen S.Rout




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