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Hello Everyone,

Is there a way to stop expiration from happening on a certain Node?

Thank you

James Lepre


 
 
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I would like the reverse.......to run expiration AGAINST one specific
node. I hope V6 adds this.



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Hello Everyone,

Is there a way to stop expiration from happening on a certain Node?

Thank you

James Lepre




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No.
But even if you could, it doesn't do what you think.

If you are retaining 5 versions of a file, when you run the 6th backup, the
1st version is gone/expired/inaccessible. Whether expiration has run or
not, you can't get that 1st version back (unless you restore your TSM DB to
a prior date).

Stopping expiration will prevent TSM from freeing up DB space and updating
the %reclaim values on your tape.

But the only way to increase retention of files, is to modify the mgt class
definitions they are bound to.

W





On 8/15/08, Lepre, James <jlepre < at > solixinc.com> wrote:

Hello Everyone,

Is there a way to stop expiration from happening on a certain Node?

Thank you

James Lepre




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copy a domain and change the management class retention and versioning to no limit and bind the node to that domain.

"Lepre, James" <jlepre < at > SOLIXINC.COM> 08/15/08 11:49 AM >>>
Hello Everyone,

Is there a way to stop expiration from happening on a certain Node?

Thank you

James Lepre




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James and Zoltan,

To run expiration for one node use the following undocumented
parameters:
expire inventory beginnode=<number> endnode=<number>

To get the node numbers, use the following case-sensitive commands from
a dsmadmc session:
create sqltable Nodes Mynodes
select c0,c1 from Mynodes order by c1
drop sqltable Mynodes

To bypass expiration on one node use a pair of commands. I wrote a
script to issue the first command, wait for it to end, then issue the
second command.
For example,
expire inventory beginnode=<first node in list> endnode=103
expire inventory beginnode=105 endnode=<last node in list>

The nodes are numbered in the order in which they were registered.
There will be gaps if any nodes were deleted.

Hope this helps,
Jim Schneider

-----Original Message-----
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Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 10:59 AM
To: ADSM-L < at > VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Expiration

I would like the reverse.......to run expiration AGAINST one specific
node. I hope V6 adds this.



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Hello Everyone,

Is there a way to stop expiration from happening on a certain Node?

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James Lepre




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.
There's an easier way to get the node number. It's explained very well
at http://www.lascon.co.uk/d005303.htm so I won't repeat it here. Just
beware that the result of this process of starting at NODE 38 will be a
number in hex. You must convert it to decimal for use on the
undocumented args to the EXPIRE INVENTORY command.

I do this all the time, if I know there's some client node that has a
bunch of tapes tied up that could be freed for reclamation by starting
expiration with that node. Works great, especially if you're digging out
of one of those awful expiration mudpits where you run out of scratch
tapes and your database is bloated. (Why does this happen when I go on
vacation?)

OTOH, to skip a node, you could control expiration with a TSM Script
that contains two EXPIRE INVENTORY commands. For instance, if you figure
out that you want to skip node 42 (decimal) you could put these in your
script:

expire inventory beginnode=1 endnode=41
commit (not sure it's needed but it can't hurt)
expire inventory beginnode=43 endnode=999999

One caveat I discovered the hard way is, you cannot start this script
manually from a dsmadmc session. You must start it via an admin
schedule. The reason is just like the unix nohup command. If you do run
it manually, then you must keep that dsmadmc session logged in until the
script finishes, or else it will stop when you do. What will happen is
that the first EXPIRE INVENTORY command will run to completion, but the
second one will not start. RUNning it via a 1-time admin schedule solves
that problem. (To make an admin schedule run only once, add the
EXPIRE=TODAY option.)

Just beware that as somebody else pointed out, skipping expiration
probably will not accomplish what you want. Instead you need to assign
that node to a different policy domain where things are kept forever.
I keep one of those handy for cases of e-discovery.

Roger Deschner University of Illinois at Chicago rogerd < at > uic.edu
There are only 10 types of people in the world: Those who understand
binary, and those who don't ...


On Fri, 15 Aug 2008, Schneider, Jim wrote:


To run expiration for one node use the following undocumented
parameters:
expire inventory beginnode=<number> endnode=<number>

To get the node numbers, use the following case-sensitive commands from
a dsmadmc session:
create sqltable Nodes Mynodes
select c0,c1 from Mynodes order by c1
drop sqltable Mynodes

To bypass expiration on one node use a pair of commands. I wrote a
script to issue the first command, wait for it to end, then issue the
second command.
For example,
expire inventory beginnode=<first node in list> endnode=103
expire inventory beginnode=105 endnode=<last node in list>

The nodes are numbered in the order in which they were registered.
There will be gaps if any nodes were deleted.

Hope this helps,
Jim Schneider

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L < at > VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 10:59 AM
To: ADSM-L < at > VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Expiration

I would like the reverse.......to run expiration AGAINST one specific
node. I hope V6 adds this.



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Hello Everyone,

Is there a way to stop expiration from happening on a certain Node?

Thank you

James Lepre




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