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Our current environment looks like this:
We have a production TSM server that all of our clients backup to throughout the day. This server has 2 SL500 tape libraries attached via fiber. One is local and the other at a remote site which is connected by dark fiber. The backup data is sent to the remote SL500 library several times a day in an effort to keep them in sync. The strategy is to bring up the TSM DR server at the remote site and have it do backups and recovers from the SL500 at that site in case of a DR scenario.

I've done a lot of reading in the past and some just recently on the possible ways to migrate from an AIX TSM server to a Linux TSM server. I understand that in earlier versions (we are currently at 5.5.5.2) of the TSM server it allowed you to backup the DB on one platform (AIX for instance) and restore on another platform (Linux for instance) and if you were keeping the same library, it would just work but apparently that was removed by IBM in the TSM server code to presumably prevent customers from moving to less expensive hardware. (Gee, thanks IBM! <sigh>).
I posted several years ago about any possible ways to migrate the TSM Server from AIX to Linux.
The feasible solutions were as follows:

1. Build new linux server with access to same tape library and then export nodes from one server to the other and then change each node as it's exported, to backup to the new TSM Server instead. Then the old data in the old server can be purged. A lengthy and time consuming process depending on the amount of data in your tape library.

2. Build a new TSM linux server and point all TSM clients to it but keep the old TSM server around in case of restores for a specified period of time until it can be removed.

There may have been more options but those seemed the most reasonable given our environment. Our biggest problem with scenario 1 above is exporting the data that lives on the remote SL500 tape library would take much longer as the connection to that tape library is slower than the local library. I can probably get some of our SLAs adjusted to not have to export all data and only the active data but that remains to be seen.

My question. Has any of this changed with v6 TSM or has anyone come up with a way to do this in a less painful and time consuming way? Hacking the DB so the other platform code doesn't block restoring an AIX TSM DB on a Linux box? Anything?

Thanks again and sorry to revisit all of this again. Just hoping something has changed in the last few years.
John

Post Migrating from AIX to Linux (again) 
You might look at new features introduced with TSM 6.3, for server/node replication.

At 10:47 AM 11/16/2011, Dury, John C. wrote:
Our current environment looks like this:
We have a production TSM server that all of our clients backup to throughout the day. This server has 2 SL500 tape libraries attached via fiber. One is local and the other at a remote site which is connected by dark fiber. The backup data is sent to the remote SL500 library several times a day in an effort to keep them in sync. The strategy is to bring up the TSM DR server at the remote site and have it do backups and recovers from the SL500 at that site in case of a DR scenario.

I've done a lot of reading in the past and some just recently on the possible ways to migrate from an AIX TSM server to a Linux TSM server. I understand that in earlier versions (we are currently at 5.5.5.2) of the TSM server it allowed you to backup the DB on one platform (AIX for instance) and restore on another platform (Linux for instance) and if you were keeping the same library, it would just work but apparently that was removed by IBM in the TSM server code to presumably prevent customers from moving to less expensive hardware. (Gee, thanks IBM! <sigh>).
I posted several years ago about any possible ways to migrate the TSM Server from AIX to Linux.
The feasible solutions were as follows:

1. Build new linux server with access to same tape library and then export nodes from one server to the other and then change each node as it's exported, to backup to the new TSM Server instead. Then the old data in the old server can be purged. A lengthy and time consuming process depending on the amount of data in your tape library.

2. Build a new TSM linux server and point all TSM clients to it but keep the old TSM server around in case of restores for a specified period of time until it can be removed.

There may have been more options but those seemed the most reasonable given our environment. Our biggest problem with scenario 1 above is exporting the data that lives on the remote SL500 tape library would take much longer as the connection to that tape library is slower than the local library. I can probably get some of our SLAs adjusted to not have to export all data and only the active data but that remains to be seen.

My question. Has any of this changed with v6 TSM or has anyone come up with a way to do this in a less painful and time consuming way? Hacking the DB so the other platform code doesn't block restoring an AIX TSM DB on a Linux box? Anything?

Thanks again and sorry to revisit all of this again. Just hoping something has changed in the last few years.
John


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Post Migrating from AIX to Linux (again) 
I am not of any help here but you say you are moving to Linux because
it is cheaper.

Our Power servers running TSM accounts for less than 3% of the yearly
total cost for our backup infrastructure. Then we include licenses and
man hours in addition to hardware and data center costs(floor space,
power and cooling).

Cutting off a little of those 3% is not an option for us if it means
moving away from a rock solid platform. Even if Linux on Dell was
handed to us free of charge we would stay on Power. But YMMV.

Anyone else done the same calculation and found out what the cost of
the physical servers amount to compared to total cost for the TSM
infrastructure? Maybe you should.

Hans Chr.



On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Dury, John C. <JDury < at > duqlight.com> wrote:
Our current environment looks like this:
We have a production TSM server that all of our clients backup to throughout the day. This server has 2 SL500 tape libraries attached via fiber. One is local and the other at a remote site which is connected by dark fiber. The backup data is sent to the remote SL500 library several times a day in an effort to keep them in sync.  The strategy is to bring up the TSM DR server at the remote site and have it do backups and recovers from the SL500 at that site in case of a DR scenario.

I've done a lot of reading in the past and some just recently on the possible ways to migrate from an AIX TSM server to a Linux TSM server. I understand that in earlier versions (we are currently at 5.5.5.2) of the TSM server it allowed you to backup the DB on one platform (AIX for instance) and restore on another platform (Linux for instance) and if you were keeping the same library, it would just work but apparently that was removed by IBM in the TSM server code to presumably prevent customers from moving to less expensive hardware. (Gee, thanks IBM! <sigh>).
I posted several years ago about any possible ways to migrate the TSM Server from AIX to Linux.
The feasible solutions were as follows:

1.       Build new linux server with access to same tape library and then export nodes from one server to the other and then change each node as it's exported, to backup to the new TSM Server instead.  Then the old data in the old server can be purged. A lengthy and time consuming process depending on the amount of data in your tape library.

2.       Build a new TSM linux server and point all TSM clients to it but keep the old TSM server around in case of restores for a specified period of time until it can be removed.

There may have been more options but those seemed the most reasonable given our environment. Our biggest problem with scenario 1 above is exporting the data that lives on the remote SL500 tape library would take much longer as the connection to that tape library is slower than the local library.  I can probably get some of our SLAs adjusted to not have to export all data and only the active data but that remains to be seen.

My question. Has any of this changed with v6 TSM or has anyone come up with a way to do this in a less painful and time consuming way? Hacking the DB so the other platform code doesn't block restoring an AIX TSM DB on a Linux box? Anything?

Thanks again and sorry to revisit all of this again. Just hoping something has changed in the last few years.
John


Post Migrating from AIX to Linux (again) 
You have to move off TSM 5 sooner or later. Any reasonably sized TSM
installation takes too long to practically convert in place so you are
forced to install TSM 6 on a new server, start new backups and then
export/import the old data. This is an ideal time to change platform in
the process.

Other than that take a look at www.butterflysoftware.com

Regards

Steve

Steven Harris
TSM Admin, Canberra Australia



On 17/11/2011 8:43 AM, Hans Christian Riksheim wrote:
I am not of any help here but you say you are moving to Linux because
it is cheaper.

Our Power servers running TSM accounts for less than 3% of the yearly
total cost for our backup infrastructure. Then we include licenses and
man hours in addition to hardware and data center costs(floor space,
power and cooling).

Cutting off a little of those 3% is not an option for us if it means
moving away from a rock solid platform. Even if Linux on Dell was
handed to us free of charge we would stay on Power. But YMMV.

Anyone else done the same calculation and found out what the cost of
the physical servers amount to compared to total cost for the TSM
infrastructure? Maybe you should.

Hans Chr.



On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Dury, John C.<JDury < at > duqlight.com> wrote:
Our current environment looks like this:
We have a production TSM server that all of our clients backup to throughout the day. This server has 2 SL500 tape libraries attached via fiber. One is local and the other at a remote site which is connected by dark fiber. The backup data is sent to the remote SL500 library several times a day in an effort to keep them in sync. The strategy is to bring up the TSM DR server at the remote site and have it do backups and recovers from the SL500 at that site in case of a DR scenario.

I've done a lot of reading in the past and some just recently on the possible ways to migrate from an AIX TSM server to a Linux TSM server. I understand that in earlier versions (we are currently at 5.5.5.2) of the TSM server it allowed you to backup the DB on one platform (AIX for instance) and restore on another platform (Linux for instance) and if you were keeping the same library, it would just work but apparently that was removed by IBM in the TSM server code to presumably prevent customers from moving to less expensive hardware. (Gee, thanks IBM!<sigh>).
I posted several years ago about any possible ways to migrate the TSM Server from AIX to Linux.
The feasible solutions were as follows:

1. Build new linux server with access to same tape library and then export nodes from one server to the other and then change each node as it's exported, to backup to the new TSM Server instead. Then the old data in the old server can be purged. A lengthy and time consuming process depending on the amount of data in your tape library.

2. Build a new TSM linux server and point all TSM clients to it but keep the old TSM server around in case of restores for a specified period of time until it can be removed.

There may have been more options but those seemed the most reasonable given our environment. Our biggest problem with scenario 1 above is exporting the data that lives on the remote SL500 tape library would take much longer as the connection to that tape library is slower than the local library. I can probably get some of our SLAs adjusted to not have to export all data and only the active data but that remains to be seen.

My question. Has any of this changed with v6 TSM or has anyone come up with a way to do this in a less painful and time consuming way? Hacking the DB so the other platform code doesn't block restoring an AIX TSM DB on a Linux box? Anything?

Thanks again and sorry to revisit all of this again. Just hoping something has changed in the last few years.
John


Post Migrating from AIX to Linux (again) 
Hello I agree with you. Its what i did but not on 6.3 for the
moment,to buggy! Saluti Maurizio

2011/11/17, Steven Harris <steve < at > stevenharris.info>:
You have to move off TSM 5 sooner or later. Any reasonably sized TSM
installation takes too long to practically convert in place so you are
forced to install TSM 6 on a new server, start new backups and then
export/import the old data. This is an ideal time to change platform in
the process.

Other than that take a look at www.butterflysoftware.com

Regards

Steve

Steven Harris
TSM Admin, Canberra Australia



On 17/11/2011 8:43 AM, Hans Christian Riksheim wrote:
I am not of any help here but you say you are moving to Linux because
it is cheaper.

Our Power servers running TSM accounts for less than 3% of the yearly
total cost for our backup infrastructure. Then we include licenses and
man hours in addition to hardware and data center costs(floor space,
power and cooling).

Cutting off a little of those 3% is not an option for us if it means
moving away from a rock solid platform. Even if Linux on Dell was
handed to us free of charge we would stay on Power. But YMMV.

Anyone else done the same calculation and found out what the cost of
the physical servers amount to compared to total cost for the TSM
infrastructure? Maybe you should.

Hans Chr.



On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Dury, John C.<JDury < at > duqlight.com> wrote:
Our current environment looks like this:
We have a production TSM server that all of our clients backup to
throughout the day. This server has 2 SL500 tape libraries attached via
fiber. One is local and the other at a remote site which is connected by
dark fiber. The backup data is sent to the remote SL500 library several
times a day in an effort to keep them in sync. The strategy is to bring
up the TSM DR server at the remote site and have it do backups and
recovers from the SL500 at that site in case of a DR scenario.

I've done a lot of reading in the past and some just recently on the
possible ways to migrate from an AIX TSM server to a Linux TSM server. I
understand that in earlier versions (we are currently at 5.5.5.2) of the
TSM server it allowed you to backup the DB on one platform (AIX for
instance) and restore on another platform (Linux for instance) and if you
were keeping the same library, it would just work but apparently that was
removed by IBM in the TSM server code to presumably prevent customers
from moving to less expensive hardware. (Gee, thanks IBM!<sigh>).
I posted several years ago about any possible ways to migrate the TSM
Server from AIX to Linux.
The feasible solutions were as follows:

1. Build new linux server with access to same tape library and then
export nodes from one server to the other and then change each node as
it's exported, to backup to the new TSM Server instead. Then the old
data in the old server can be purged. A lengthy and time consuming
process depending on the amount of data in your tape library.

2. Build a new TSM linux server and point all TSM clients to it but
keep the old TSM server around in case of restores for a specified period
of time until it can be removed.

There may have been more options but those seemed the most reasonable
given our environment. Our biggest problem with scenario 1 above is
exporting the data that lives on the remote SL500 tape library would take
much longer as the connection to that tape library is slower than the
local library. I can probably get some of our SLAs adjusted to not have
to export all data and only the active data but that remains to be seen.

My question. Has any of this changed with v6 TSM or has anyone come up
with a way to do this in a less painful and time consuming way? Hacking
the DB so the other platform code doesn't block restoring an AIX TSM DB
on a Linux box? Anything?

Thanks again and sorry to revisit all of this again. Just hoping
something has changed in the last few years.
John




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Post Migrating from AIX to Linux (again) 
You cannot restore the DB (and as far as I know never have been able to)
from one platform to another.

If you do an over the network migration (as I have) the export/import
process is unnecessary, and is about the fastest method.
I too would highly recommend the Power Series platform, and would
suggest a serious look at how much hardware actually cost to get the
same *actual* performance. I say actual because the numbers that
vendors (including IBM) often give you are not realistic on a consistent
over time basis. I've found that, unless you're running RHEL on Power,
the performance over time vs. cost very much favors pSeries. However,
if you don't have someone who is familiar with that platform going RHEL
on intel would make better sense.


See Ya'
Howard Coles Jr.
John 3:16!


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You have to move off TSM 5 sooner or later. Any reasonably sized TSM
installation takes too long to practically convert in place so you are
forced to install TSM 6 on a new server, start new backups and then
export/import the old data. This is an ideal time to change platform in
the process.

Other than that take a look at www.butterflysoftware.com

Regards

Steve

Steven Harris
TSM Admin, Canberra Australia



On 17/11/2011 8:43 AM, Hans Christian Riksheim wrote:
I am not of any help here but you say you are moving to Linux because
it is cheaper.

Our Power servers running TSM accounts for less than 3% of the yearly
total cost for our backup infrastructure. Then we include licenses and
man hours in addition to hardware and data center costs(floor space,
power and cooling).

Cutting off a little of those 3% is not an option for us if it means
moving away from a rock solid platform. Even if Linux on Dell was
handed to us free of charge we would stay on Power. But YMMV.

Anyone else done the same calculation and found out what the cost of
the physical servers amount to compared to total cost for the TSM
infrastructure? Maybe you should.

Hans Chr.



On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Dury, John C.<JDury < at > duqlight.com>
wrote:
Our current environment looks like this:
We have a production TSM server that all of our clients backup to
throughout the day. This server has 2 SL500 tape libraries attached via
fiber. One is local and the other at a remote site which is connected by
dark fiber. The backup data is sent to the remote SL500 library several
times a day in an effort to keep them in sync. The strategy is to bring
up the TSM DR server at the remote site and have it do backups and
recovers from the SL500 at that site in case of a DR scenario.

I've done a lot of reading in the past and some just recently on the
possible ways to migrate from an AIX TSM server to a Linux TSM server. I
understand that in earlier versions (we are currently at 5.5.5.2) of the
TSM server it allowed you to backup the DB on one platform (AIX for
instance) and restore on another platform (Linux for instance) and if
you were keeping the same library, it would just work but apparently
that was removed by IBM in the TSM server code to presumably prevent
customers from moving to less expensive hardware. (Gee, thanks
IBM!<sigh>).
I posted several years ago about any possible ways to migrate the TSM
Server from AIX to Linux.
The feasible solutions were as follows:

1. Build new linux server with access to same tape library and
then export nodes from one server to the other and then change each node
as it's exported, to backup to the new TSM Server instead. Then the old
data in the old server can be purged. A lengthy and time consuming
process depending on the amount of data in your tape library.

2. Build a new TSM linux server and point all TSM clients to it
but keep the old TSM server around in case of restores for a specified
period of time until it can be removed.

There may have been more options but those seemed the most reasonable
given our environment. Our biggest problem with scenario 1 above is
exporting the data that lives on the remote SL500 tape library would
take much longer as the connection to that tape library is slower than
the local library. I can probably get some of our SLAs adjusted to not
have to export all data and only the active data but that remains to be
seen.

My question. Has any of this changed with v6 TSM or has anyone come
up with a way to do this in a less painful and time consuming way?
Hacking the DB so the other platform code doesn't block restoring an AIX
TSM DB on a Linux box? Anything?

Thanks again and sorry to revisit all of this again. Just hoping
something has changed in the last few years.
John

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We buy slightly used Power equipment for TSM, and are extremely happy
with the cost comparisons and the performance. You can get a lot of work
done with a used, higher-end P6.

When TSM gets down to some of its serious computation tasks such as
expiration, delete filespace, reclamation, and deduplication, you need a
lot more processing and I/O horsepower than you can get from commodity
equipment. The only alternative we would seriously consider is Sun
SPARC.

Some tasks such as web page serving and email can easily be broken up
into chunks and run on commodity equipment working against a central
NAS/SAN infrastructure, and we do this. TSM does not fit this model
without a LOT of additional management effort. TSM needs fewer, larger,
faster computers, which is also cheaper in terms of environmentals such
as power, cooling, and floor space.

Roger Deschner University of Illinois at Chicago rogerd < at > uic.edu
======I have not lost my mind -- it is backed up on tape somewhere.=====


On Wed, 16 Nov 2011, Hans Christian Riksheim wrote:

I am not of any help here but you say you are moving to Linux because
it is cheaper.

Our Power servers running TSM accounts for less than 3% of the yearly
total cost for our backup infrastructure. Then we include licenses and
man hours in addition to hardware and data center costs(floor space,
power and cooling).

Cutting off a little of those 3% is not an option for us if it means
moving away from a rock solid platform. Even if Linux on Dell was
handed to us free of charge we would stay on Power. But YMMV.

Anyone else done the same calculation and found out what the cost of
the physical servers amount to compared to total cost for the TSM
infrastructure? Maybe you should.

Hans Chr.



On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Dury, John C. <JDury < at > duqlight.com> wrote:
Our current environment looks like this:
We have a production TSM server that all of our clients backup to throughout the day. This server has 2 SL500 tape libraries attached via fiber. One is local and the other at a remote site which is connected by dark fiber. The backup data is sent to the remote SL500 library several times a day in an effort to keep them in sync.  The strategy is to bring up the TSM DR server at the remote site and have it do backups and recovers from the SL500 at that site in case of a DR scenario.

I've done a lot of reading in the past and some just recently on the possible ways to migrate from an AIX TSM server to a Linux TSM server. I understand that in earlier versions (we are currently at 5.5.5.2) of the TSM server it allowed you to backup the DB on one platform (AIX for instance) and restore on another platform (Linux for instance) and if you were keeping the same library, it would just work but apparently that was removed by IBM in the TSM server code to presumably prevent customers from moving to less expensive hardware. (Gee, thanks IBM! <sigh>).
I posted several years ago about any possible ways to migrate the TSM Server from AIX to Linux.
The feasible solutions were as follows:

1.       Build new linux server with access to same tape library and then export nodes from one server to the other and then change each node as it's exported, to backup to the new TSM Server instead.  Then the old data in the old server can be purged. A lengthy and time consuming process depending on the amount of data in your tape library.

2.       Build a new TSM linux server and point all TSM clients to it but keep the old TSM server around in case of restores for a specified period of time until it can be removed.

There may have been more options but those seemed the most reasonable given our environment. Our biggest problem with scenario 1 above is exporting the data that lives on the remote SL500 tape library would take much longer as the connection to that tape library is slower than the local library.  I can probably get some of our SLAs adjusted to not have to export all data and only the active data but that remains to be seen.

My question. Has any of this changed with v6 TSM or has anyone come up with a way to do this in a less painful and time consuming way? Hacking the DB so the other platform code doesn't block restoring an AIX TSM DB on a Linux box? Anything?

Thanks again and sorry to revisit all of this again. Just hoping something has changed in the last few years.
John



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A link farm? Maybe www.butterflysoftware.net?

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You have to move off TSM 5 sooner or later. Any reasonably sized TSM
installation takes too long to practically convert in place so you are
forced to install TSM 6 on a new server, start new backups and then
export/import the old data. This is an ideal time to change platform in
the process.

Other than that take a look at www.butterflysoftware.com

Regards

Steve

Steven Harris
TSM Admin, Canberra Australia



On 17/11/2011 8:43 AM, Hans Christian Riksheim wrote:
I am not of any help here but you say you are moving to Linux because
it is cheaper.

Our Power servers running TSM accounts for less than 3% of the yearly
total cost for our backup infrastructure. Then we include licenses and
man hours in addition to hardware and data center costs(floor space,
power and cooling).

Cutting off a little of those 3% is not an option for us if it means
moving away from a rock solid platform. Even if Linux on Dell was
handed to us free of charge we would stay on Power. But YMMV.

Anyone else done the same calculation and found out what the cost of
the physical servers amount to compared to total cost for the TSM
infrastructure? Maybe you should.

Hans Chr.



On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Dury, John C.<JDury < at > duqlight.com>
wrote:
Our current environment looks like this:
We have a production TSM server that all of our clients backup to
throughout the day. This server has 2 SL500 tape libraries attached via
fiber. One is local and the other at a remote site which is connected by
dark fiber. The backup data is sent to the remote SL500 library several
times a day in an effort to keep them in sync. The strategy is to bring
up the TSM DR server at the remote site and have it do backups and
recovers from the SL500 at that site in case of a DR scenario.

I've done a lot of reading in the past and some just recently on the
possible ways to migrate from an AIX TSM server to a Linux TSM server. I
understand that in earlier versions (we are currently at 5.5.5.2) of the
TSM server it allowed you to backup the DB on one platform (AIX for
instance) and restore on another platform (Linux for instance) and if you
were keeping the same library, it would just work but apparently that was
removed by IBM in the TSM server code to presumably prevent customers from
moving to less expensive hardware. (Gee, thanks IBM!<sigh>).
I posted several years ago about any possible ways to migrate the TSM
Server from AIX to Linux.
The feasible solutions were as follows:

1. Build new linux server with access to same tape library and
then export nodes from one server to the other and then change each node
as it's exported, to backup to the new TSM Server instead. Then the old
data in the old server can be purged. A lengthy and time consuming process
depending on the amount of data in your tape library.

2. Build a new TSM linux server and point all TSM clients to it
but keep the old TSM server around in case of restores for a specified
period of time until it can be removed.

There may have been more options but those seemed the most reasonable
given our environment. Our biggest problem with scenario 1 above is
exporting the data that lives on the remote SL500 tape library would take
much longer as the connection to that tape library is slower than the
local library. I can probably get some of our SLAs adjusted to not have
to export all data and only the active data but that remains to be seen.

My question. Has any of this changed with v6 TSM or has anyone come up
with a way to do this in a less painful and time consuming way? Hacking
the DB so the other platform code doesn't block restoring an AIX TSM DB on
a Linux box? Anything?

Thanks again and sorry to revisit all of this again. Just hoping
something has changed in the last few years.
John




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Does anybody have any comparisons on running TSM V6.3 on the AIX
platform versus Windows 2008 ? We have been running on AIX for
approximately 15 years and our company would like us to convert to
windows. Trying to give them a comparison in terms of hardware needed,
disaster recovery times, etc...

Thanks.

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A link farm? Maybe www.butterflysoftware.net?

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Re: [ADSM-L] Migrating from AIX to Linux (again)






You have to move off TSM 5 sooner or later. Any reasonably sized TSM
installation takes too long to practically convert in place so you are
forced to install TSM 6 on a new server, start new backups and then
export/import the old data. This is an ideal time to change platform in
the process.

Other than that take a look at www.butterflysoftware.com

Regards

Steve

Steven Harris
TSM Admin, Canberra Australia



On 17/11/2011 8:43 AM, Hans Christian Riksheim wrote:
I am not of any help here but you say you are moving to Linux because
it is cheaper.

Our Power servers running TSM accounts for less than 3% of the yearly
total cost for our backup infrastructure. Then we include licenses and
man hours in addition to hardware and data center costs(floor space,
power and cooling).

Cutting off a little of those 3% is not an option for us if it means
moving away from a rock solid platform. Even if Linux on Dell was
handed to us free of charge we would stay on Power. But YMMV.

Anyone else done the same calculation and found out what the cost of
the physical servers amount to compared to total cost for the TSM
infrastructure? Maybe you should.

Hans Chr.



On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Dury, John C.<JDury < at > duqlight.com>
wrote:
Our current environment looks like this:
We have a production TSM server that all of our clients backup to
throughout the day. This server has 2 SL500 tape libraries attached via
fiber. One is local and the other at a remote site which is connected by

dark fiber. The backup data is sent to the remote SL500 library several
times a day in an effort to keep them in sync. The strategy is to bring

up the TSM DR server at the remote site and have it do backups and
recovers from the SL500 at that site in case of a DR scenario.

I've done a lot of reading in the past and some just recently on the
possible ways to migrate from an AIX TSM server to a Linux TSM server. I

understand that in earlier versions (we are currently at 5.5.5.2) of the

TSM server it allowed you to backup the DB on one platform (AIX for
instance) and restore on another platform (Linux for instance) and if
you
were keeping the same library, it would just work but apparently that
was
removed by IBM in the TSM server code to presumably prevent customers
from
moving to less expensive hardware. (Gee, thanks IBM!<sigh>).
I posted several years ago about any possible ways to migrate the TSM

Server from AIX to Linux.
The feasible solutions were as follows:

1. Build new linux server with access to same tape library and
then export nodes from one server to the other and then change each node

as it's exported, to backup to the new TSM Server instead. Then the old

data in the old server can be purged. A lengthy and time consuming
process
depending on the amount of data in your tape library.

2. Build a new TSM linux server and point all TSM clients to it

but keep the old TSM server around in case of restores for a specified
period of time until it can be removed.

There may have been more options but those seemed the most reasonable

given our environment. Our biggest problem with scenario 1 above is
exporting the data that lives on the remote SL500 tape library would
take
much longer as the connection to that tape library is slower than the
local library. I can probably get some of our SLAs adjusted to not have

to export all data and only the active data but that remains to be seen.

My question. Has any of this changed with v6 TSM or has anyone come
up
with a way to do this in a less painful and time consuming way? Hacking
the DB so the other platform code doesn't block restoring an AIX TSM DB
on
a Linux box? Anything?

Thanks again and sorry to revisit all of this again. Just hoping
something has changed in the last few years.
John




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