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Looked through the manual today and can't find any information on
archiving VM data. Is there a way to archive data from a VMware guest
(file-level or image) without installing a client on the actual guest?
There doesn't seem to be an "archive vm" command

Regards,
Shawn
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IBM just told me this wasn't possible. If anyone is interested, please
vote on this RFE I just submitted

RFE ID 25065:
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=25065


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Shawn
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Looked through the manual today and can't find any information on
archiving VM data. Is there a way to archive data from a VMware guest
(file-level or image) without installing a client on the actual guest?
There doesn't seem to be an "archive vm" command

Regards,
Shawn
________________________________________________
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Have you considered mounting the VM backup and then running the archive?
It's similar to a feature Fastback has for moving data to TSM for long term
storage.

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Shawn Drew <
shawn.drew < at > americas.bnpparibas.com> wrote:

Looked through the manual today and can't find any information on
archiving VM data. Is there a way to archive data from a VMware guest
(file-level or image) without installing a client on the actual guest?
There doesn't seem to be an "archive vm" command

Regards,
Shawn
________________________________________________
Shawn Drew


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Good thinking, Ken. Now that you've got me thinking outside the VE box....

You could Storage vMotion the VM into an NFS datastore, mount the datastore on a client machine, then archive the whole VM.

If you wanted to archive a subset of the VM, you could NFS- or CIFS-share a filesystem or directory from the VM to the TSM server, then archive it there.

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Date: Tue, Jul 31, 2012 6:54 PM


Have you considered mounting the VM backup and then running the archive?
It's similar to a feature Fastback has for moving data to TSM for long term
storage.

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Shawn Drew <
shawn.drew < at > americas.bnpparibas.com> wrote:

Looked through the manual today and can't find any information on
archiving VM data. Is there a way to archive data from a VMware guest
(file-level or image) without installing a client on the actual guest?
There doesn't seem to be an "archive vm" command

Regards,
Shawn
________________________________________________
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That is a good idea for one-off archives. I might use that for my current
need, but probably just easier installing a client in the guest for
one-off requests.
Automating it, on the other hand, with windows scripting, recovery agent
cli, and dynamic disks seems way tough

I remember in the old vcb days, you would have to script the whole
process. i.e. mount the VM's from the data store with vcbmounter and run
a backup from there.
Is it still possible to mount the VM's like that? I would think the
binaries are included in the "VMware tools" optional install in the BA
client since that is pretty much what it does for the file-level "backup
vm" but not sure if that is accessible. Is there a modern replacement for
vcbmounter ?

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Shawn
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Have you considered mounting the VM backup and then running the archive?
It's similar to a feature Fastback has for moving data to TSM for long
term
storage.

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Shawn Drew <
shawn.drew < at > americas.bnpparibas.com> wrote:

Looked through the manual today and can't find any information on
archiving VM data. Is there a way to archive data from a VMware guest
(file-level or image) without installing a client on the actual guest?
There doesn't seem to be an "archive vm" command

Regards,
Shawn
________________________________________________
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I have just one question.
Why archive an entire server? We have a strict rule to only archive the data that is specifically needed.

Don't forget to "write" down the local admin password if you archive to whole server.

Andy Huebner


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That is a good idea for one-off archives. I might use that for my current
need, but probably just easier installing a client in the guest for
one-off requests.
Automating it, on the other hand, with windows scripting, recovery agent
cli, and dynamic disks seems way tough

I remember in the old vcb days, you would have to script the whole
process. i.e. mount the VM's from the data store with vcbmounter and run
a backup from there.
Is it still possible to mount the VM's like that? I would think the
binaries are included in the "VMware tools" optional install in the BA
client since that is pretty much what it does for the file-level "backup
vm" but not sure if that is accessible. Is there a modern replacement for
vcbmounter ?

Regards,
Shawn
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Have you considered mounting the VM backup and then running the archive?
It's similar to a feature Fastback has for moving data to TSM for long
term
storage.

On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Shawn Drew <
shawn.drew < at > americas.bnpparibas.com> wrote:

Looked through the manual today and can't find any information on
archiving VM data. Is there a way to archive data from a VMware guest
(file-level or image) without installing a client on the actual guest?
There doesn't seem to be an "archive vm" command

Regards,
Shawn
________________________________________________
Shawn Drew


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