Check out the incl/excl section in the manual. There is a special note
about excluding files and using the journal and using the tsmjbbd.ini.
Also, as far as memory is concerned, The TSM client still scans and
considers everything in those directories unless exclude.dir is used.
exclude.dir is more memory friendly.
Storage Manager Clients > Backup-Archive Clients > Windows: Backup-Archive
Clients Installation and User's Guide > Chapter 2. Configuring Tivoli
Storage Manager > Creating an include-exclude list (optional)
Regards,
Shawn
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Re: [ADSM-L] Why are my "temp" files being backed up?
Oops - spoke too soon. Thought I had gone all the way through the
dsmsched log.
I do see the "\Temp" files being "expired". Plus another issue. I added
a line to exclude other files in a directory called "Temporary ASP.NET
Files" which are being backed up.
Q INCLEXCL shows this line:
Exclude All *\...\Temporary ASP.NET Files\* Server
But see:
04/18/2012 04:21:41 Directory--> 0
\\acipenser\c$\WINDOWS\Installer [Sent]
04/18/2012 04:21:41 Directory--> 0
\\acipenser\c$\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary
ASP.NET Files [Sent]
04/18/2012 04:21:41 Directory--> 0
\\acipenser\c$\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary
ASP.NET Files\gems2\418515df\c907c6c2\assembly\tmp [Sent]
04/18/2012 04:21:41 Directory--> 0
\\acipenser\c$\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary
ASP.NET Files\instar_v3_application\7576bd4a\3e941370\assembly\tmp [Sent]
04/18/2012 04:21:41 Directory--> 0
\\acipenser\c$\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v2.0.50727\Temporary
ASP.NET Files\instar_v3_application\7576bd4a\3e941370\uploads [Sent]
So, I guess I should change the exclude to an exclude.dir? or make it:
exclude '*:\...\Temporary ASP.NET Files\...\*'
Zoltan Forray
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From: Andrew Raibeck <storman < at > US.IBM.COM>
To: ADSM-L < at > VM.MARIST.EDU
Date: 04/17/2012 05:12 PM
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Why are my "temp" files being backed up?
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L < at > VM.MARIST.EDU>
Zoltan,
OK... so can we see a complete Q INCLEXCL output for the node?
Also, what happens if you try to manually back up data in a temp
directory?
Does it back them up? Or do you see messages that indicate the files are
excluded?
dsmc s "C:\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local Settings\Temp\*" -su=y
I would expect if the excludes are properly set up, you'll see messages
indicating the files are excluded.
Best regards,
Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
Level 3 Team Lead
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Hartford/IBM < at > IBMUS
Internet e-mail: storman < at > us.ibm.com
IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
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"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L < at > vm.marist.edu> wrote on 2012-04-17
16:22:13:
From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU <zforray < at > VCU.EDU>
To: ADSM-L < at > vm.marist.edu,
Date: 2012-04-17 16:24
Subject: Re: Why are my "temp" files being backed up?
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L < at > vm.marist.edu>
Andy,
Thanks for the reply.
No includes in these CLOPTSET's. They are used to force global excludes
of things like the AntiVirus we use, SQL files/directories on servers
that have MS-SQL and use the TDP and various other Windows files
(ntuser.dat, usrclass.dat, etc).
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Virginia Commonwealth University
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From: Andrew Raibeck <storman < at > US.IBM.COM>
To: ADSM-L < at > VM.MARIST.EDU
Date: 04/17/2012 03:06 PM
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Why are my "temp" files being backed up?
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L < at > VM.MARIST.EDU>
Hi Zoltan,
A couple of things:
1. If your TSM clients use multiple nodes or options files, make sure
that
the "q inclexcl" you do is for the same node and options file that are
used
during the backup; and that the scheduled backup is using the intended
node
name and options file.
2. Check the order in which the include/exclude statements appear. Once
a
given file matches an include or exclude statement, then the file is
included or excluded as appropriate. Subsequent include or exclude
statements are not considered. The excerpts you posted don't show the
non-temp include and exclude statements, so we can't tell if there might
be
some other statement overriding your excludes. For example, if you this
in
dsm.opt:
...
EXCLUDE *:\...\Temp\...\*
INCLUDE *:\Documents and Settings\...\*
...
Then with bottom-up processing, a temp file in the "Documents and
Settings"
directory will match the INCLUDE statement, at which time the file will
be
backed up.
Best regards,
Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Product Development
Level 3 Team Lead
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Hartford/IBM < at > IBMUS
Internet e-mail: storman < at > us.ibm.com
IBM Tivoli Storage Manager support web page:
http://www.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/Overview/Software/Tivoli/
Tivoli_Storage_Manager
"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L < at > vm.marist.edu> wrote on 2012-04-17
14:43:11:
From: Zoltan Forray/AC/VCU <zforray < at > VCU.EDU>
To: ADSM-L < at > vm.marist.edu,
Date: 2012-04-17 14:46
Subject: Re: Why are my "temp" files being backed up?
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L < at > vm.marist.edu>
I should have mentioned that nothing has changed on this server for a
long
time, including the cloptset. My thought is if it is "expiring" it,
then
it must have backed it up.
I was simply researching the memory problems (see bottom of my initial
post) when I saw these in the dsmsched.log.
I am wondering if the journaling process overrides/ignores the
exclusion
process.
Zoltan Forray
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Virginia Commonwealth University
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From: "Clark, Margaret" <MClark < at > SDDPC.ORG>
To: ADSM-L < at > VM.MARIST.EDU
Date: 04/17/2012 02:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Why are my "temp" files being backed up?
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L < at > VM.MARIST.EDU>
What you show here is not a log of files being backed up, but being
expired. If you had just modified the options file to add the
exclusion,
you'd see a log like this.
If that's the case, then check the log again tomorrow.
- Margaret
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To: ADSM-L < at > VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: [ADSM-L] Why are my "temp" files being backed up?
Windows 2003 server - 6.3 client. This machine is very memory
constrained. 43M files. Using journaling and MEMORYEFFICIENT
DISKCACHEMETHOD.
When I use the CLI and do a "q inclexcl", I see:
<snippage>
Exclude All *\temp\* Server
<more snippage>
Exclude All *\...\Temp\...\* Server
So I know the cloptset is working.
Nothing in the dsm.opt:
NODENAME ACIPENSER.VCU.EDU
TCPSERVERADDRESS TSMLINUX8.UCC.VCU.EDU
PASSWORDACCESS GENERATE
SCHEDLOGR 30 D
ERRORLOGR 30 D
*MEMORYEFFICIENT YES
MEMORYEFFICIENT DISKCACHEMETHOD
diskcachelocation g:\tsm_cache
*SNAPSHOTPROVIDER VSS
VERBOSE
Yet I see entries like:
04/17/2012 04:20:18 Retry # 1 Expiring--> 0
\\acipenser\c$\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local
Settings\Temp\list26194-1656.mem [Sent]
04/17/2012 04:20:18 Retry # 1 Expiring--> 0
\\acipenser\c$\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local
Settings\Temp\list26195-1656.mem [Sent]
04/17/2012 04:20:18 Retry # 1 Expiring--> 0
\\acipenser\c$\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local
Settings\Temp\list26196-4900.mem [Sent]
04/17/2012 04:20:18 Retry # 1 Expiring--> 0
\\acipenser\c$\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local
Settings\Temp\list26197-1656.mem [Sent]
04/17/2012 04:20:18 Retry # 1 Expiring--> 0
\\acipenser\c$\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local
Settings\Temp\list26198-4900.mem [Sent]
04/17/2012 04:20:18 Retry # 1 Expiring--> 0
\\acipenser\c$\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local
Settings\Temp\list26199-4900.mem [Sent]
04/17/2012 04:20:18 Retry # 1 Expiring--> 0
\\acipenser\c$\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local
Settings\Temp\list26200-1656.mem [Sent]
04/17/2012 04:20:18 Retry # 1 Expiring--> 0
\\acipenser\c$\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local
Settings\Temp\list26201-4900.mem [Sent]
04/17/2012 04:20:18 Retry # 1 Expiring--> 0
\\acipenser\c$\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local
Settings\Temp\list26202-1656.mem [Sent]
04/17/2012 04:20:18 Retry # 1 Expiring--> 0
\\acipenser\c$\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local
Settings\Temp\list26203-1656.mem [Sent]
04/17/2012 04:20:18 Retry # 1 Expiring--> 0
\\acipenser\c$\Documents and Settings\wshuart\Local
Settings\Temp\list26204-1656.mem [Sent]
in the dsmsched.log file?
What am I missing?
I am also dealing with some kind of "memory" issue eventhough I am
using
memoryefficient:
04/15/2012 18:24:54 ANS1030E The operating system refused a TSM
request
for memory allocation.
04/15/2012 18:24:54 ANS1512E Scheduled event 'RESEARCH-COMPUTING'
failed.
Return code = 12.
04/16/2012 17:08:01 ANS1814E Unable to start the scheduled event
'ACIPENSER.SQL.DAILY'
04/16/2012 17:08:01 ANS1815E Either the window has elapsed or the
schedule
has been deleted
04/16/2012 18:29:55 ANS1999E Incremental processing of
'\\acipenser\i$'
stopped.
04/16/2012 18:29:56 ANS1030E The operating system refused a TSM
request
for memory allocation.
04/16/2012 18:29:56 ANS1512E Scheduled event 'RESEARCH-COMPUTING'
failed.
Return code = 12.
Any thoughts on this?
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