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Hello, I have only just started testing rdiff-backup and it works really
well. I mainly want to use it to backup windows servers. I've been
testing it on win2k, backing up the system state, etc and it seems very
efficient.

The thing I like about rdiff-backup is the incrementals - it doesn't
back up files that have changed since the last full backup. Rather, it
backs up files that have changed since the last incremental backup.

Second thing I like is that it uses ssh to transfer, plus numerous other
things are good about it. There are two things about it though that I
have questions about.

1) No compression on the files that it recieves. All the diffs are
compressed but not the actual current pool. I want to backup a *lot* of
servers and need all files to be compressed to save disk space.

2) No web interface for restoring files.

I have a solution to both of these problems. I am interested in making a
web interface. It won't be a very good one but it will be something that
(non-tech) users will be able to download files. I won't bother making
it restore to the windows server, I'll just make it so that by clicking
on a file, it will save it to whatever location they choose. I don't
think this will be all *that* hard to do, although making it browse
incrementals as well will be a little harder. I haven't actually looked
at how it checks for new file changes and where it stores them, but I'm
sure its not that hard to do. I'll probably end up doing this in perl
cgi.

As to the compression problem, I was thinking of making it so that any
new files that are transferred will get compressed and prepend the
filename with a couple of characters that identify them being
compressed. When a user goes to the web interface, then these first
couple of characters will be stripped as to not confuse the user. When
they choose to restore file(s), it will automatically uncompress them
and then send the files compressed down the pipe.

As I said, I haven't had much of a look at any of this so if this is not
going to be possible then please let me know of any problems I may run
into.

Also, thanks for rdiff-backup =) seems pretty good. I would also like to
try the installer that David (I think?) made for windows that ties all
the necessary files together for rdiff-backup to work on windows. I will
get around to it and let you know how it goes compared to a compiled
version. I am in the middle of transferring a whole windows drive over
the network and so far its fine without any errors (apart from the usual
open files).

Post some questions, web interface, etc. 
Ben wrote:
2) No web interface for restoring files.


we have written a web interface and are interested in licensing it to
people.
I have no idea what it would be worth - what people be willing to pay
for a fully feature restore interface to an rdiff-backup archive or
series of archives?

dave

Post some questions, web interface, etc. 
Money is not really all *that* much of an issue, I would be willing to
pay for it if it was a reasonable price. What I can't wait for though is
when a decision will be made to make this available Smile That's why I will
make a half-decent one myself if I can. I'm not that much of a
programmer but I should be able to whip something up.

On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 21:41, David Kempe wrote:
Ben wrote:
2) No web interface for restoring files.


we have written a web interface and are interested in licensing it to
people.
I have no idea what it would be worth - what people be willing to pay
for a fully feature restore interface to an rdiff-backup archive or
series of archives?

dave

Post some questions, web interface, etc. 
Ben wrote:

Looks good! Looks like its got all the features I'm after
(multi-user/repository) and the price you mentioned was around about
what I had in mind as well. I too am in Australia (Melbourne).

As I have only started using rdiff-backup as of like a few hours ago
(well, most of the day), I want to make sure that it really is what I
need. At this point, it seems like it will be the way I will be doing
backups, I just have more testing to do. So if I do decide to go with it
then I would be interested in purchasing the web interface for it.


thats excellent
call me on monday - 02 9476 0076 or 0413 022 143 to discuss if you like.
happy to help you out.
you might be interested in our experiences.
out website is http://solutionsfirst.com.au

dave

Post some questions, web interface, etc. 
Looks good! Looks like its got all the features I'm after
(multi-user/repository) and the price you mentioned was around about
what I had in mind as well. I too am in Australia (Melbourne).

As I have only started using rdiff-backup as of like a few hours ago
(well, most of the day), I want to make sure that it really is what I
need. At this point, it seems like it will be the way I will be doing
backups, I just have more testing to do. So if I do decide to go with it
then I would be interested in purchasing the web interface for it.

On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 22:22, David Kempe wrote:
Ben wrote:

Money is not really all *that* much of an issue, I would be willing to
pay for it if it was a reasonable price. What I can't wait for though is
when a decision will be made to make this available Smile That's why I will
make a half-decent one myself if I can. I'm not that much of a
programmer but I should be able to whip something up.


its available now. We have finished testing.
here are some screenshots:

http://solutionsfirst.com.au/~dave/backup/screenshots/

I don't know exactly what a reasonable price is, but I would have
thought the guy who got us to write the interface (its for the restore
part of a guy windows client) would expect at least a few hundred
dollars (AUD) for an unlimited use, no redistribution, full source
license. The interface is written in PHP and designed at present for
multi-user, multi-repository setup. It wouldn't be hard to scale that back.
It also has a SOAP interface to talk to our GUI client, but you probably
don't need that.
let me know what you think. I know you can't write it for less than
$AU300 :)

dave

Post some questions, web interface, etc. 
Ben wrote:

Money is not really all *that* much of an issue, I would be willing to
pay for it if it was a reasonable price. What I can't wait for though is
when a decision will be made to make this available Smile That's why I will
make a half-decent one myself if I can. I'm not that much of a
programmer but I should be able to whip something up.


its available now. We have finished testing.
here are some screenshots:

http://solutionsfirst.com.au/~dave/backup/screenshots/

I don't know exactly what a reasonable price is, but I would have
thought the guy who got us to write the interface (its for the restore
part of a guy windows client) would expect at least a few hundred
dollars (AUD) for an unlimited use, no redistribution, full source
license. The interface is written in PHP and designed at present for
multi-user, multi-repository setup. It wouldn't be hard to scale that back.
It also has a SOAP interface to talk to our GUI client, but you probably
don't need that.
let me know what you think. I know you can't write it for less than
$AU300 :)

dave

Post some questions, web interface, etc. 
Dear Dave,

How does your webinterface handle deleted files and directories?


Greetz,

Lieuwe Jan Koning


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[mailto:rdiff-backup-users-bounces+rdiff=lieuwejan.nl < at > nongnu.org] Namens Ben
Verzonden: vrijdag 21 mei 2004 14:42
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CC: rdiff-backup-users < at > nongnu.org
Onderwerp: Re: [rdiff-backup-users] some questions, web interface, etc.

Looks good! Looks like its got all the features I'm after
(multi-user/repository) and the price you mentioned was around about what I
had in mind as well. I too am in Australia (Melbourne).

As I have only started using rdiff-backup as of like a few hours ago (well,
most of the day), I want to make sure that it really is what I need. At this
point, it seems like it will be the way I will be doing backups, I just have
more testing to do. So if I do decide to go with it then I would be
interested in purchasing the web interface for it.

On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 22:22, David Kempe wrote:
Ben wrote:

Money is not really all *that* much of an issue, I would be willing
to pay for it if it was a reasonable price. What I can't wait for
though is when a decision will be made to make this available Smile
That's why I will make a half-decent one myself if I can. I'm not
that much of a programmer but I should be able to whip something up.


its available now. We have finished testing.
here are some screenshots:

http://solutionsfirst.com.au/~dave/backup/screenshots/

I don't know exactly what a reasonable price is, but I would have
thought the guy who got us to write the interface (its for the restore
part of a guy windows client) would expect at least a few hundred
dollars (AUD) for an unlimited use, no redistribution, full source
license. The interface is written in PHP and designed at present for
multi-user, multi-repository setup. It wouldn't be hard to scale that
back.
It also has a SOAP interface to talk to our GUI client, but you
probably don't need that.
let me know what you think. I know you can't write it for less than
$AU300 :)

dave



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Post some questions, web interface, etc. 
David Kempe <dave < at > solutionsfirst.com.au>
wrote the following on Fri, 21 May 2004 22:22:20 +1000

its available now. We have finished testing.
here are some screenshots:

http://solutionsfirst.com.au/~dave/backup/screenshots/

Nice!


--
Ben Escoto

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Ben <ben < at > ukotic.net>
wrote the following on Fri, 21 May 2004 20:20:01 +1000

1) No compression on the files that it recieves. All the diffs are
compressed but not the actual current pool. I want to backup a *lot*
of servers and need all files to be compressed to save disk space.
...
As to the compression problem, I was thinking of making it so that
any new files that are transferred will get compressed and prepend
the filename with a couple of characters that identify them being
compressed. When a user goes to the web interface, then these first
couple of characters will be stripped as to not confuse the
user. When they choose to restore file(s), it will automatically
uncompress them and then send the files compressed down the pipe.

This has been requested before but I think it would be non-trival to
add, and moves away from the "mirror" idea. Then again, when people
back up a unix FSs to fat there isn't much of a mirror: the filenames
end up quoted, and lots of things are missing from the mirror
(ownership, extended attributes, etc.). So maybe this would be worth
adding later.

In the meantime you could consider putting the mirror on a compressed
filesystem. I think this would have all the benefits, and possibly be
cleaner, than having rdiff-backup compress the mirror files.


--
Ben Escoto

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Lieuwe Jan Koning (Semper) wrote:
Dear Dave,

How does your webinterface handle deleted files and directories?



as you can see in the screen shots, the link that says 'deleted files'
toggles the display of deleted files on and off for each user.

dave

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