Backup Central

Hello All,

Currently running backexec 2010 R2 and the backups are writing to Data Domain. The job rate and performance is extremely slow and backups for a 1TB exchange server are running extremely long (20+ hours)! I can see from the data domain auto support that backupexec is only pushing a single backup stream. Is there a way to increase the number of backup streams in backupexec to get better performance? I have ensured that the speed and duplex settings on all servers, switches, and data domain are hard coded to 1gb full duplex. Is there something else that could be related to the very slow performance?

Thank You,
Brian

Hello Brian,

It depends. Which exchange server are you using.
Are you writing to a backup folder or to a virtual tape drive

This may not be the only or the best method.

If to a backup to disk folder and you have multiple daq’s or storage groups then you can put them in different jobs.
If you allow multiple jobs to write to the backup to disk folder then you can have multiple jobs running at the same time.

len



From: veritas-bu-bounces < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Marsee
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:22 PM
To: veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec 2010 R2 Job Rate Very Slow




Hello All,

Currently running backexec 2010 R2 and the backups are writing to Data Domain. The job rate and performance is extremely slow and backups for a 1TB exchange server are running extremely long (20+ hours)! I can see from the data domain auto support that backupexec is only pushing a single backup stream. Is there a way to increase the number of backup streams in backupexec to get better performance? I have ensured that the speed and duplex settings on all servers, switches, and data domain are hard coded to 1gb full duplex. Is there something else that could be related to the very slow performance?

Thank You,
Brian

Hi Len,

Using exchange 2010 on windows 2008 R2 with 1 active dag and 1 passive dag. Currently backing up the active dag to a CIFS share on the Backupexec server which is mounted from an EMC Data Domain appliance (Deduplicated disk array). Exchange servers are virtualized with VMware vsphere 4.1. Performance is dog slow for these backups.


Thank You,
Brian Marsee
Relational Technology Solutions
(734)748-4499 - Mobile
From: Len Boyle
To: Brian Marsee; veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Sent: Sun Oct 23 15:26:58 2011
Subject: RE: BackupExec 2010 R2 Job Rate Very Slow

Hello Brian,

It depends. Which exchange server are you using.
Are you writing to a backup folder or to a virtual tape drive

This may not be the only or the best method.

If to a backup to disk folder and you have multiple daq’s or storage groups then you can put them in different jobs.
If you allow multiple jobs to write to the backup to disk folder then you can have multiple jobs running at the same time.

len



From: veritas-bu-bounces < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Marsee
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:22 PM
To: veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec 2010 R2 Job Rate Very Slow




Hello All,

Currently running backexec 2010 R2 and the backups are writing to Data Domain. The job rate and performance is extremely slow and backups for a 1TB exchange server are running extremely long (20+ hours)! I can see from the data domain auto support that backupexec is only pushing a single backup stream. Is there a way to increase the number of backup streams in backupexec to get better performance? I have ensured that the speed and duplex settings on all servers, switches, and data domain are hard coded to 1gb full duplex. Is there something else that could be related to the very slow performance?

Thank You,
Brian

Brian,

If you could break the dag up into multiples you could have a backup stream each.

We do something close. But we have 25 dag’s and write to a few CIFS shares on netapp. They have three passive for each active.
And there are multiple exchange virtual machines. As the exchange folks move things around the speed can vary quite a bit.
We backup up the passive node with a fallback to the active.

But we have also seen the speed go up to 2000MB/min

But when things are good and we are running multiple jobs we are around 1000. When bad we can go down to 200-300 MB/min.

If we can get the data off of the exchange servers, then our limit is the gige card

len

From: Brian Marsee [mailto:BMarsee < at > rts.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:54 PM
To: Len Boyle; 'veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu'
Subject: Re: BackupExec 2010 R2 Job Rate Very Slow



Hi Len,

Using exchange 2010 on windows 2008 R2 with 1 active dag and 1 passive dag. Currently backing up the active dag to a CIFS share on the Backupexec server which is mounted from an EMC Data Domain appliance (Deduplicated disk array). Exchange servers are virtualized with VMware vsphere 4.1. Performance is dog slow for these backups.


Thank You,
Brian Marsee
Relational Technology Solutions
(734)748-4499 - Mobile

From: Len Boyle
To: Brian Marsee; veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Sent: Sun Oct 23 15:26:58 2011
Subject: RE: BackupExec 2010 R2 Job Rate Very Slow
Hello Brian,

It depends. Which exchange server are you using.
Are you writing to a backup folder or to a virtual tape drive

This may not be the only or the best method.

If to a backup to disk folder and you have multiple daq’s or storage groups then you can put them in different jobs.
If you allow multiple jobs to write to the backup to disk folder then you can have multiple jobs running at the same time.

len



From: veritas-bu-bounces < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Marsee
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:22 PM
To: veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec 2010 R2 Job Rate Very Slow




Hello All,

Currently running backexec 2010 R2 and the backups are writing to Data Domain. The job rate and performance is extremely slow and backups for a 1TB exchange server are running extremely long (20+ hours)! I can see from the data domain auto support that backupexec is only pushing a single backup stream. Is there a way to increase the number of backup streams in backupexec to get better performance? I have ensured that the speed and duplex settings on all servers, switches, and data domain are hard coded to 1gb full duplex. Is there something else that could be related to the very slow performance?

Thank You,
Brian

What is the underlying disk structure (Raid, # spindles, type of disk) of the lun that holds the Exchange databases? What is the disk latency before, during, and after the backup? If your latency is high before the backup starts, then it’s going to be terrible during the backup and lead to poor performance.

-Jonathan

From: veritas-bu-bounces < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Marsee
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:54 PM
To: 'Len.Boyle < at > sas.com'; 'veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu'
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec 2010 R2 Job Rate Very Slow



Hi Len,

Using exchange 2010 on windows 2008 R2 with 1 active dag and 1 passive dag. Currently backing up the active dag to a CIFS share on the Backupexec server which is mounted from an EMC Data Domain appliance (Deduplicated disk array). Exchange servers are virtualized with VMware vsphere 4.1. Performance is dog slow for these backups.


Thank You,
Brian Marsee
Relational Technology Solutions
(734)748-4499 - Mobile

From: Len Boyle
To: Brian Marsee; veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Sent: Sun Oct 23 15:26:58 2011
Subject: RE: BackupExec 2010 R2 Job Rate Very Slow
Hello Brian,

It depends. Which exchange server are you using.
Are you writing to a backup folder or to a virtual tape drive

This may not be the only or the best method.

If to a backup to disk folder and you have multiple daq’s or storage groups then you can put them in different jobs.
If you allow multiple jobs to write to the backup to disk folder then you can have multiple jobs running at the same time.

len



From: veritas-bu-bounces < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Marsee
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:22 PM
To: veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec 2010 R2 Job Rate Very Slow




Hello All,

Currently running backexec 2010 R2 and the backups are writing to Data Domain. The job rate and performance is extremely slow and backups for a 1TB exchange server are running extremely long (20+ hours)! I can see from the data domain auto support that backupexec is only pushing a single backup stream. Is there a way to increase the number of backup streams in backupexec to get better performance? I have ensured that the speed and duplex settings on all servers, switches, and data domain are hard coded to 1gb full duplex. Is there something else that could be related to the very slow performance?

Thank You,
Brian

No issues with performance on the actual performance on exchange itself. Only the backup is slow.

Thank You,
Brian Marsee
Relational Technology Solutions
(734)748-4499 - Mobile
From: Martin, Jonathan
To: Brian Marsee; Len.Boyle < at > sas.com ; veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Sent: Sun Oct 23 17:11:19 2011
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec 2010 R2 Job Rate Very Slow

What is the underlying disk structure (Raid, # spindles, type of disk) of the lun that holds the Exchange databases? What is the disk latency before, during, and after the backup? If your latency is high before the backup starts, then it’s going to be terrible during the backup and lead to poor performance.

-Jonathan

From: veritas-bu-bounces < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Marsee
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:54 PM
To: 'Len.Boyle < at > sas.com'; 'veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu'
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec 2010 R2 Job Rate Very Slow



Hi Len,

Using exchange 2010 on windows 2008 R2 with 1 active dag and 1 passive dag. Currently backing up the active dag to a CIFS share on the Backupexec server which is mounted from an EMC Data Domain appliance (Deduplicated disk array). Exchange servers are virtualized with VMware vsphere 4.1. Performance is dog slow for these backups.


Thank You,
Brian Marsee
Relational Technology Solutions
(734)748-4499 - Mobile

From: Len Boyle
To: Brian Marsee; veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Sent: Sun Oct 23 15:26:58 2011
Subject: RE: BackupExec 2010 R2 Job Rate Very Slow
Hello Brian,

It depends. Which exchange server are you using.
Are you writing to a backup folder or to a virtual tape drive

This may not be the only or the best method.

If to a backup to disk folder and you have multiple daq’s or storage groups then you can put them in different jobs.
If you allow multiple jobs to write to the backup to disk folder then you can have multiple jobs running at the same time.

len



From: veritas-bu-bounces < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Marsee
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:22 PM
To: veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec 2010 R2 Job Rate Very Slow




Hello All,

Currently running backexec 2010 R2 and the backups are writing to Data Domain. The job rate and performance is extremely slow and backups for a 1TB exchange server are running extremely long (20+ hours)! I can see from the data domain auto support that backupexec is only pushing a single backup stream. Is there a way to increase the number of backup streams in backupexec to get better performance? I have ensured that the speed and duplex settings on all servers, switches, and data domain are hard coded to 1gb full duplex. Is there something else that could be related to the very slow performance?

Thank You,
Brian

Is there any way to add more backup streams for a single backup job? I woulkd rather do that instead of multiple dags


Thank You,
Brian Marsee
Relational Technology Solutions
(734)748-4499 - Mobile
From: Martin, Jonathan
To: Brian Marsee; Len.Boyle < at > sas.com ; veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Sent: Sun Oct 23 17:11:19 2011
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec 2010 R2 Job Rate Very Slow

What is the underlying disk structure (Raid, # spindles, type of disk) of the lun that holds the Exchange databases? What is the disk latency before, during, and after the backup? If your latency is high before the backup starts, then it’s going to be terrible during the backup and lead to poor performance.

-Jonathan

From: veritas-bu-bounces < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Marsee
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:54 PM
To: 'Len.Boyle < at > sas.com'; 'veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu'
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec 2010 R2 Job Rate Very Slow



Hi Len,

Using exchange 2010 on windows 2008 R2 with 1 active dag and 1 passive dag. Currently backing up the active dag to a CIFS share on the Backupexec server which is mounted from an EMC Data Domain appliance (Deduplicated disk array). Exchange servers are virtualized with VMware vsphere 4.1. Performance is dog slow for these backups.


Thank You,
Brian Marsee
Relational Technology Solutions
(734)748-4499 - Mobile

From: Len Boyle
To: Brian Marsee; veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Sent: Sun Oct 23 15:26:58 2011
Subject: RE: BackupExec 2010 R2 Job Rate Very Slow
Hello Brian,

It depends. Which exchange server are you using.
Are you writing to a backup folder or to a virtual tape drive

This may not be the only or the best method.

If to a backup to disk folder and you have multiple daq’s or storage groups then you can put them in different jobs.
If you allow multiple jobs to write to the backup to disk folder then you can have multiple jobs running at the same time.

len



From: veritas-bu-bounces < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Marsee
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:22 PM
To: veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] BackupExec 2010 R2 Job Rate Very Slow




Hello All,

Currently running backexec 2010 R2 and the backups are writing to Data Domain. The job rate and performance is extremely slow and backups for a 1TB exchange server are running extremely long (20+ hours)! I can see from the data domain auto support that backupexec is only pushing a single backup stream. Is there a way to increase the number of backup streams in backupexec to get better performance? I have ensured that the speed and duplex settings on all servers, switches, and data domain are hard coded to 1gb full duplex. Is there something else that could be related to the very slow performance?

Thank You,
Brian