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Hello,
Does anyone use file excludes when they backup a UNIX or windows server?
For example excluding the paging file 'pagefile.sys' when backing up a
windows server? A situation came up here where I work and I need to push
out a "standard" set of files to exclude on UNIX and windows servers.=20
Thanks in advance,
Greg



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* Hindle, Greg <Greg.Hindle < at > constellation.com> [2005-01-14 16:53]:
Hello,
Does anyone use file excludes when they backup a UNIX or windows server?
For example excluding the paging file 'pagefile.sys' when backing up a
windows server? A situation came up here where I work and I need to push
out a "standard" set of files to exclude on UNIX and windows servers.=20

we use excludes quite a bit, mostly on Windows. A "standard" listing is
somewhat subjective, though.

--=20
David Rock
david < at > graniteweb.com

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Well there are certain files in windows that for the most part do not
need to be backed up every day. One for example is the windows swap file
(pagefile.sys). This file changes every day and this would be backed up
every day. But would not be needed if the server needed a DR recovery.
Another file would be the windows crash file, typically those that end
in *.DMP. I was just looking for other "standard" files that could be
excluded from backups that would not really matter in if a server failed
and had to have a DR restore done. And I am not really a Unix person so
any direction there on files that particularly do not need to be backed
up every day would be helpful.

Greg


-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of David Rock
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 6:13 PM
To: veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Does anyone use file excludes

* Hindle, Greg <Greg.Hindle < at > constellation.com> [2005-01-14 16:53]:
Hello,
Does anyone use file excludes when they backup a UNIX or windows
server?
For example excluding the paging file 'pagefile.sys' when backing up a

windows server? A situation came up here where I work and I need to
push out a "standard" set of files to exclude on UNIX and windows
servers.

we use excludes quite a bit, mostly on Windows. A "standard" listing is
somewhat subjective, though.

--
David Rock
david < at > graniteweb.com




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Hello Greg

Please look at the following url: note there is a veritas technote about
this also.

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/WindowsServ/2003/all/techref/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/windowsserv/2003/all/techref/en-us/w2k3tr_back_tools.asp

Microsoft has a registry entry that defines files that should not be backed
up. And netbackup uses this entry, which includes pagefile.sys.

len
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From: "Hindle, Greg" <Greg.Hindle < at > constellation.com>
To: "David Rock" <dave-bu < at > graniteweb.com>;
<veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 8:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Does anyone use file excludes


Well there are certain files in windows that for the most part do not
need to be backed up every day. One for example is the windows swap file
(pagefile.sys). This file changes every day and this would be backed up
every day. But would not be needed if the server needed a DR recovery.
Another file would be the windows crash file, typically those that end
in *.DMP. I was just looking for other "standard" files that could be
excluded from backups that would not really matter in if a server failed
and had to have a DR restore done. And I am not really a Unix person so
any direction there on files that particularly do not need to be backed
up every day would be helpful.

Greg


-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of David Rock
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 6:13 PM
To: veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Does anyone use file excludes

* Hindle, Greg <Greg.Hindle < at > constellation.com> [2005-01-14 16:53]:
Hello,
Does anyone use file excludes when they backup a UNIX or windows
server?
For example excluding the paging file 'pagefile.sys' when backing up a

windows server? A situation came up here where I work and I need to
push out a "standard" set of files to exclude on UNIX and windows
servers.

we use excludes quite a bit, mostly on Windows. A "standard" listing is
somewhat subjective, though.

--
David Rock
david < at > graniteweb.com




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Hindle, Greg wrote:

Hello,
Does anyone use file excludes when they backup a UNIX or windows
server? For example excluding the paging file 'pagefile.sys' when
backing up a windows server? A situation came up here where I work and
I need to push out a "standard" set of files to exclude on UNIX and
windows servers.

Thanks in advance,
Greg




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On unix i make good use of exclude files

The standard exclude_list i roll out to all clients is as follows

core
/proc
/tmp
/cdrom
/dev/fd
/var/crash
/var/run
/var/tmp
/etc/mnttab

Then i exclude files for certain backups which are not required, eg
log_files which i have in a separate log_archiving policy

Hope this helps

Dave

Exactly what I was looking for!
Thanks!


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From: Dave Markham [mailto:dave.markham < at > fjserv.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 7:06 AM
To: Hindle, Greg
Cc: veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Does anyone use file excludes

Hindle, Greg wrote:

Hello,
Does anyone use file excludes when they backup a UNIX or windows
server? For example excluding the paging file 'pagefile.sys' when
backing up a windows server? A situation came up here where I work and

I need to push out a "standard" set of files to exclude on UNIX and
windows servers.

Thanks in advance,
Greg




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On unix i make good use of exclude files

The standard exclude_list i roll out to all clients is as follows

core
/proc
/tmp
/cdrom
/dev/fd
/var/crash
/var/run
/var/tmp
/etc/mnttab

Then i exclude files for certain backups which are not required, eg
log_files which i have in a separate log_archiving policy

Hope this helps

Dave

Note, by the way, that simply "core" on the line isn't enough anymore. All
file excludes in v5.x and up have to be absolute paths.

/core
/*/core
/*/*/core
/*/*/*/core
...etc...

I once called this a "travesty of usability". My opinion hasn't changed.

-M

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Markham
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To: Hindle, Greg
Cc: veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Does anyone use file excludes


Hindle, Greg wrote:

Hello,
Does anyone use file excludes when they backup a UNIX or windows
server? For example excluding the paging file 'pagefile.sys' when
backing up a windows server? A situation came up here where I work and
I need to push out a "standard" set of files to exclude on UNIX and
windows servers.

Thanks in advance,
Greg




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On unix i make good use of exclude files

The standard exclude_list i roll out to all clients is as follows

core
/proc
/tmp
/cdrom
/dev/fd
/var/crash
/var/run
/var/tmp
/etc/mnttab

Then i exclude files for certain backups which are not required, eg
log_files which i have in a separate log_archiving policy

Hope this helps

Dave

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I know the absolute path thing was a problem with 5.1, but I'm nearly=20
100% sure this was fixed in 5.1 MP1.

In fact, here it is from the README:


Etrack Incident =3D ET208248

Description:
=A0 =A0Performing backups using an exclude or include list with =
non-fully-
=A0 =A0qualified path names could cause significantly slower backup=20=

performance.

=A0 =A0All NetBackup Unix Clients

As found in the following readme for 5.1 MP1

http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/269107.htm

It also appears in the 5.0 MP4 readme:

Description:
=A0 =A0Performing backups using an exclude list with =
non-fully-qualified=20
path
=A0 =A0names could cause significantly slower backup performance.

=A0 =A0All NetBackup UNIX Clients

http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/271893.htm

HTH
-tim


On Jan 19, 2005, at 2:11 PM, Mark.Donaldson < at > cexp.com wrote:

Note, by the way, that simply "core" on the line isn't enough anymore.=20=

All
file excludes in v5.x and up have to be absolute paths.

/core
/*/core
/*/*/core
/*/*/*/core
...etc...

I once called this a "travesty of usability". My opinion hasn't=20
changed.

-M

-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-admin < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu]On Behalf Of Dave
Markham
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 5:06 AM
To: Hindle, Greg
Cc: veritas-bu < at > mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Does anyone use file excludes


Hindle, Greg wrote:

Hello,
Does anyone use file excludes when they backup a UNIX or windows
server? For example excluding the paging file 'pagefile.sys' when
backing up a windows server? A situation came up here where I work =
and
I need to push out a "standard" set of files to exclude on UNIX and
windows servers.

Thanks in advance,
Greg




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you
are hereby notified that any retention, disclosure or other use is
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please immediately contact the sender and delete the material.

On unix i make good use of exclude files

The standard exclude_list i roll out to all clients is as follows

core
/proc
/tmp
/cdrom
/dev/fd
/var/crash
/var/run
/var/tmp
/etc/mnttab

Then i exclude files for certain backups which are not required, eg
log_files which i have in a separate log_archiving policy

Hope this helps

Dave

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