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We have a DataDomain 670 that I would like to start sending our oracle RMAN jobs to. I would prefer to have the jobs go straight to the dd670 rather than through the media server. Right now we use RMAN on the oracle host and NBU (7.0.1) talks to the DD670 over OST. Do I simply setup the oracle host as a media server with it also configured to talk to the DD670 over OST? Or is there a better way to go about doing this configuration.

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Digital Motorworks, Inc (512) 692 - 1038


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Nate,

We also have DD670’s and currently backup our oracle environment via Netbackup to the Data Domain appliances using NBU to call an RMAN script. However, you can do direct RMAN backups to Data Domain appliances and we hope to have that configured in the near future. Data Domain has a white paper on best practices with RMAN (http://info.emc.com/mk/get/SDL?reg_src=web&P.ctp_program_execution.Source_ID=DBM10615-16960). We plan to change our backup strategy once our DBA’s move to ASM filesystems for our oracle data. Essentially I believe that the setup would have RMAN dump its backups to the DD’s via CIFS or NFS.

Thanks,

Mark Glazerman
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We have a DataDomain 670 that I would like to start sending our oracle RMAN jobs to. I would prefer to have the jobs go straight to the dd670 rather than through the media server. Right now we use RMAN on the oracle host and NBU (7.0.1) talks to the DD670 over OST. Do I simply setup the oracle host as a media server with it also configured to talk to the DD670 over OST? Or is there a better way to go about doing this configuration.

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Nate Sanders Sr. System Administrator
Digital Motorworks, Inc (512) 692 - 1038


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Yeah I read through the RMAN Best Practice and sent it to our DBAs, though unless I missed it, it was mostly covering RMAN performance and not NBU integration. We’re also on ASM already, I believe. Is the CIFS/NFS option an only option thing, or can OST be leverage with RMAN? The only way I could fathom that is by setting up the Oracle system as a media server and having it interact directly with the DD670 via OST.

From: Mark Glazerman [mailto:Mark.Glazerman < at > spartech.com]
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Nate,

We also have DD670’s and currently backup our oracle environment via Netbackup to the Data Domain appliances using NBU to call an RMAN script. However, you can do direct RMAN backups to Data Domain appliances and we hope to have that configured in the near future. Data Domain has a white paper on best practices with RMAN (http://info.emc.com/mk/get/SDL?reg_src=web&P.ctp_program_execution.Source_ID=DBM10615-16960). We plan to change our backup strategy once our DBA’s move to ASM filesystems for our oracle data. Essentially I believe that the setup would have RMAN dump its backups to the DD’s via CIFS or NFS.

Thanks,

Mark Glazerman
Desk: 314-889-8282
Cell: 618-520-3401
P please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to


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We have a DataDomain 670 that I would like to start sending our oracle RMAN jobs to. I would prefer to have the jobs go straight to the dd670 rather than through the media server. Right now we use RMAN on the oracle host and NBU (7.0.1) talks to the DD670 over OST. Do I simply setup the oracle host as a media server with it also configured to talk to the DD670 over OST? Or is there a better way to go about doing this configuration.

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Nate Sanders Sr. System Administrator
Digital Motorworks, Inc (512) 692 - 1038


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There are probably several ways to do this.  While I have a different vendor's disk appliance, I suspect similar capabilities.
For us, license cost was an issue.   Reducing NetBackup licenses (and involvement) in Oracle database backups to zero, we have our disk appliance export NFS mounts to our Linux/Solaris database machines and have RMAN backup via a script run via cron.  This has proved to have fewer problems, less setup time, and no licensing cost when compared to our former use of NetBackup for Oracle Agent.

The only downside that we've experienced is that the reporting of problems we enjoy with the NetBackup Admin Console and StorageScape (StorageConsole) are missing and must be built to ensure the backups are being done.  I continue to work on this area.

Cheers, Wayne

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Sanders, Nate <sandersn < at > dmotorworks.com ([email]sandersn < at > dmotorworks.com[/email])> wrote:

We have a DataDomain 670 that I would like to start sending our oracle RMAN jobs to. I would prefer to have the jobs go straight to the dd670 rather than through the media server. Right now we use RMAN on the oracle host and NBU (7.0.1) talks to the DD670 over OST. Do I simply setup the oracle host as a media server with it also configured to talk to the DD670 over OST? Or is there a better way to go about doing this configuration.

OST plug-in runs only on a media server. If you like to directly send Oracle backups to DD box through OST, Oracle host should be configured as a media server.

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:05 PM, Sanders, Nate <sandersn < at > dmotorworks.com ([email]sandersn < at > dmotorworks.com[/email])> wrote:

We have a DataDomain 670 that I would like to start sending our oracle RMAN jobs to. I would prefer to have the jobs go straight to the dd670 rather than through the media server. Right now we use RMAN on the oracle host and NBU (7.0.1) talks to the DD670 over OST. Do I simply setup the oracle host as a media server with it also configured to talk to the DD670 over OST? Or is there a better way to go about doing this configuration.
 
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Digital Motorworks, Inc         [url=tel:%28512%29%20692%20-%201038](512) 692 - 1038[/url]
 

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Please ask if DD box can set quota limits on NFS/CIFS shares as you'll not be able to monitor the usage through backup software using the same box in OST/VTL mode.

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Mark Glazerman <Mark.Glazerman < at > spartech.com ([email]Mark.Glazerman < at > spartech.com[/email])> wrote:

Nate,
 
We also have DD670’s and currently backup our oracle environment via Netbackup to the Data Domain appliances using NBU to call an RMAN script.  However, you can do direct RMAN backups to Data Domain appliances and we hope to have that configured in the near future.  Data Domain has a white paper on best practices with RMAN (http://info.emc.com/mk/get/SDL?reg_src=web&P.ctp_program_execution.Source_ID=DBM10615-16960).  We plan to change our backup strategy once our DBA’s move to ASM filesystems for our oracle data.  Essentially I believe that the setup would have RMAN dump its backups to the DD’s via CIFS or NFS.
 
Thanks,
 
Mark Glazerman
Desk: [url=tel:314-889-8282]314-889-8282[/url]
Cell: [url=tel:618-520-3401]618-520-3401[/url]
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We have a DataDomain 670 that I would like to start sending our oracle RMAN jobs to. I would prefer to have the jobs go straight to the dd670 rather than through the media server. Right now we use RMAN on the oracle host and NBU (7.0.1) talks to the DD670 over OST. Do I simply setup the oracle host as a media server with it also configured to talk to the DD670 over OST? Or is there a better way to go about doing this configuration.
 
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Nate Sanders            Sr. System Administrator
Digital Motorworks, Inc         [url=tel:%28512%29%20692%20-%201038](512) 692 - 1038[/url]
 

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