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Given the availability of rapid OS deployment/restore via Ghost, Altiris/DS, Symantec System Recovery, etc, and with the special exceptions of a Domain Controller or a Certificate Server, why would I ever care to back up the System State on Windows servers?

To start with...

1.Windows Security - You wont get windows security back during restore without system state backups

2.Registry - You wont get windows registry back during restore without system state backups. Again to start with - Failure to restore registry will leave your applications impaired with no services to look to and thus restored apps will never work.

There are several other scenarios which basically come down to apps running on a particular server.

If you can afford to lose these things then you dont need system state backups. Once example is of simple file servers where data is the most important and security can be rebuilt if lost during recovery.

Thanks.

How about vStorage CBT differentials?

Anyone actually have a problem with the registry, certificate store etc
not coming back to the point in time of the differential backup?

I am torn if I should keep doing my incremental /synthetics including
system state as well as periodic vStorage fulls, or go all in except
some key systems that keep their main dynamic state in the system state
area (Like CA Services, AD, RDS systems), and agent backups for SQL,
Exchange, Sharepoint.

On 11/23/2011 9:56 PM, redfireball wrote:
To start with...

1.Windows Security - You wont get windows security back during restore without system state backups

2.Registry - You wont get windows registry back during restore without system state backups. Again to start with - Failure to restore registry will leave your applications impaired with no services to look to and thus restored apps will never work.

There are several other scenarios which basically come down to apps running on a particular server.

If you can afford to lose these things then you dont need system state backups. Once example is of simple file servers where data is the most important and security can be rebuilt if lost during recovery.

Thanks.

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Hi David.

When using vStorage based CBT incrementals, the VM is backed up in a consistent state via the VSS provider that is included with VMware Tools. When restoring from a CBT incremental, the VM is fully restored including the System State data.

-George Winter
Symantec Corporation

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How about vStorage CBT differentials?

Anyone actually have a problem with the registry, certificate store etc not coming back to the point in time of the differential backup?

I am torn if I should keep doing my incremental /synthetics including system state as well as periodic vStorage fulls, or go all in except some key systems that keep their main dynamic state in the system state area (Like CA Services, AD, RDS systems), and agent backups for SQL, Exchange, Sharepoint.

On 11/23/2011 9:56 PM, redfireball wrote:
To start with...

1.Windows Security - You wont get windows security back during restore
without system state backups

2.Registry - You wont get windows registry back during restore without system state backups. Again to start with - Failure to restore registry will leave your applications impaired with no services to look to and thus restored apps will never work.

There are several other scenarios which basically come down to apps running on a particular server.

If you can afford to lose these things then you dont need system state backups. Once example is of simple file servers where data is the most important and security can be rebuilt if lost during recovery.

Thanks.

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